Originally posted by: QueBert
there are no rules to hip-hop, it's allows for total free thinking and expression. This is why you have people who rap about killing cops, people who rap about sex, ones who rap about uplifting their people, people who rap about abstract stuff. It's not limited to any one area and you can't really define it beyond saying it's the reciting of rhyming words over music. You're trying to make hip-hop out to be one exact thing, when it's a million things.
I mean if you go buy a new truck and get the upgraded package chances are it will come with with 20" rims, technically you could consider that Hip-Hop because without Hip-Hop we definitely wouldn't have big rims on our cars.
rap is the music side and Hip-Hop is the way they dress, dance, DJ and do graffiti, but outside of those exacts it's anything goes. Even the way they dress can be as different as super baggy pants to tight polo shirts and slacks.
If you take Metallica rocking out and throw a person rapping on it, it becomes rap. Hip-Hop adapts to whatever you toss it in. My mom hates Kid Rock because he raps (sometimes anywho) her big problem with rap is "it's not music! it's noise!" but I showed her a Kid Rock video where he was playing the piano and guitar I asked her "how is that not music?" "it's still rap so it's crap!" For every argument people have as to why they don't like it.
it's not music! - Kid Rock, Roots are examples of bands who rap there's music! but they still refuse to accept it "rap is crap!"
it's violent and misogynistic - play them something very positive and uplifting like De La Soul, won't even have cursing, they still say "rap is crap!"
It's really a loose loose situation to try and explain what hip-hop really is to somebody who hates it without knowing much about it. I don't expect to convert people, as they already have their minds made up. I just like to point out their contradictions, if you hate rap hate rap but don't make up reasons that can be debunked.
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: QueBert
there are no rules to hip-hop, it's allows for total free thinking and expression. This is why you have people who rap about killing cops, people who rap about sex, ones who rap about uplifting their people, people who rap about abstract stuff. It's not limited to any one area and you can't really define it beyond saying it's the reciting of rhyming words over music. You're trying to make hip-hop out to be one exact thing, when it's a million things.
I mean if you go buy a new truck and get the upgraded package chances are it will come with with 20" rims, technically you could consider that Hip-Hop because without Hip-Hop we definitely wouldn't have big rims on our cars.
rap is the music side and Hip-Hop is the way they dress, dance, DJ and do graffiti, but outside of those exacts it's anything goes. Even the way they dress can be as different as super baggy pants to tight polo shirts and slacks.
If you take Metallica rocking out and throw a person rapping on it, it becomes rap. Hip-Hop adapts to whatever you toss it in. My mom hates Kid Rock because he raps (sometimes anywho) her big problem with rap is "it's not music! it's noise!" but I showed her a Kid Rock video where he was playing the piano and guitar I asked her "how is that not music?" "it's still rap so it's crap!" For every argument people have as to why they don't like it.
it's not music! - Kid Rock, Roots are examples of bands who rap there's music! but they still refuse to accept it "rap is crap!"
it's violent and misogynistic - play them something very positive and uplifting like De La Soul, won't even have cursing, they still say "rap is crap!"
It's really a loose loose situation to try and explain what hip-hop really is to somebody who hates it without knowing much about it. I don't expect to convert people, as they already have their minds made up. I just like to point out their contradictions, if you hate rap hate rap but don't make up reasons that can be debunked.
Sounds like you think hip-hop is everything and nothing at the same time - no rules, no boundaries, nothing to compliment and nothing to criticize. In fact, hip-hop cannot be understood by those who do not like it so, in order to have an opinion regarding hip-hop, you must like it. Or, to put it another way, if you do not like hip-hop, you must not understand it or you must not know what it is.
MotionMan
Originally posted by: DiZASTiX
Originally posted by: QueBert
there are no rules to hip-hop, it's allows for total free thinking and expression. This is why you have people who rap about killing cops, people who rap about sex, ones who rap about uplifting their people, people who rap about abstract stuff. It's not limited to any one area and you can't really define it beyond saying it's the reciting of rhyming words over music. You're trying to make hip-hop out to be one exact thing, when it's a million things.
I mean if you go buy a new truck and get the upgraded package chances are it will come with with 20" rims, technically you could consider that Hip-Hop because without Hip-Hop we definitely wouldn't have big rims on our cars.
rap is the music side and Hip-Hop is the way they dress, dance, DJ and do graffiti, but outside of those exacts it's anything goes. Even the way they dress can be as different as super baggy pants to tight polo shirts and slacks.
If you take Metallica rocking out and throw a person rapping on it, it becomes rap. Hip-Hop adapts to whatever you toss it in. My mom hates Kid Rock because he raps (sometimes anywho) her big problem with rap is "it's not music! it's noise!" but I showed her a Kid Rock video where he was playing the piano and guitar I asked her "how is that not music?" "it's still rap so it's crap!" For every argument people have as to why they don't like it.
it's not music! - Kid Rock, Roots are examples of bands who rap there's music! but they still refuse to accept it "rap is crap!"
it's violent and misogynistic - play them something very positive and uplifting like De La Soul, won't even have cursing, they still say "rap is crap!"
It's really a loose loose situation to try and explain what hip-hop really is to somebody who hates it without knowing much about it. I don't expect to convert people, as they already have their minds made up. I just like to point out their contradictions, if you hate rap hate rap but don't make up reasons that can be debunked.
Again, agree completely.
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: QueBert
there are no rules to hip-hop, it's allows for total free thinking and expression. This is why you have people who rap about killing cops, people who rap about sex, ones who rap about uplifting their people, people who rap about abstract stuff. It's not limited to any one area and you can't really define it beyond saying it's the reciting of rhyming words over music. You're trying to make hip-hop out to be one exact thing, when it's a million things.
I mean if you go buy a new truck and get the upgraded package chances are it will come with with 20" rims, technically you could consider that Hip-Hop because without Hip-Hop we definitely wouldn't have big rims on our cars.
rap is the music side and Hip-Hop is the way they dress, dance, DJ and do graffiti, but outside of those exacts it's anything goes. Even the way they dress can be as different as super baggy pants to tight polo shirts and slacks.
If you take Metallica rocking out and throw a person rapping on it, it becomes rap. Hip-Hop adapts to whatever you toss it in. My mom hates Kid Rock because he raps (sometimes anywho) her big problem with rap is "it's not music! it's noise!" but I showed her a Kid Rock video where he was playing the piano and guitar I asked her "how is that not music?" "it's still rap so it's crap!" For every argument people have as to why they don't like it.
it's not music! - Kid Rock, Roots are examples of bands who rap there's music! but they still refuse to accept it "rap is crap!"
it's violent and misogynistic - play them something very positive and uplifting like De La Soul, won't even have cursing, they still say "rap is crap!"
It's really a loose loose situation to try and explain what hip-hop really is to somebody who hates it without knowing much about it. I don't expect to convert people, as they already have their minds made up. I just like to point out their contradictions, if you hate rap hate rap but don't make up reasons that can be debunked.
Sounds like you think hip-hop is everything and nothing at the same time - no rules, no boundaries, nothing to compliment and nothing to criticize. In fact, hip-hop cannot be understood by those who do not like it so, in order to have an opinion regarding hip-hop, you must like it. Or, to put it another way, if you do not like hip-hop, you must not understand it or you must not know what it is.
MotionMan
We're not saying if you don't like hip-hop you must not understand it. I'm saying you criticizing hip-hop and saying it causes all these bad things is because you don't understand it. Like QueBert just said 'I don't expect to convert people, as they already have their minds made up. I just like to point out their contradictions, if you hate rap hate rap but don't make up reasons that can be debunked."
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: QueBert
there are no rules to hip-hop, it's allows for total free thinking and expression. This is why you have people who rap about killing cops, people who rap about sex, ones who rap about uplifting their people, people who rap about abstract stuff. It's not limited to any one area and you can't really define it beyond saying it's the reciting of rhyming words over music. You're trying to make hip-hop out to be one exact thing, when it's a million things.
I mean if you go buy a new truck and get the upgraded package chances are it will come with with 20" rims, technically you could consider that Hip-Hop because without Hip-Hop we definitely wouldn't have big rims on our cars.
rap is the music side and Hip-Hop is the way they dress, dance, DJ and do graffiti, but outside of those exacts it's anything goes. Even the way they dress can be as different as super baggy pants to tight polo shirts and slacks.
If you take Metallica rocking out and throw a person rapping on it, it becomes rap. Hip-Hop adapts to whatever you toss it in. My mom hates Kid Rock because he raps (sometimes anywho) her big problem with rap is "it's not music! it's noise!" but I showed her a Kid Rock video where he was playing the piano and guitar I asked her "how is that not music?" "it's still rap so it's crap!" For every argument people have as to why they don't like it.
it's not music! - Kid Rock, Roots are examples of bands who rap there's music! but they still refuse to accept it "rap is crap!"
it's violent and misogynistic - play them something very positive and uplifting like De La Soul, won't even have cursing, they still say "rap is crap!"
It's really a loose loose situation to try and explain what hip-hop really is to somebody who hates it without knowing much about it. I don't expect to convert people, as they already have their minds made up. I just like to point out their contradictions, if you hate rap hate rap but don't make up reasons that can be debunked.
Sounds like you think hip-hop is everything and nothing at the same time - no rules, no boundaries, nothing to compliment and nothing to criticize. In fact, hip-hop cannot be understood by those who do not like it so, in order to have an opinion regarding hip-hop, you must like it. Or, to put it another way, if you do not like hip-hop, you must not understand it or you must not know what it is.
MotionMan
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
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The Escalade?
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: pradeep1
I think hip hop culture drives American cultural influence throughout the world much like American rock 'n roll did earlier on.
Unfortunately the rest of the world apparently think the "thug life" is a good thing.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
"Radio, TV, music, movies, video games - come on, man. That crap does not affect kids. Take "Pac-Man" for instance. If it affected my generation, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, gobbling up magic pills, and listening to repetitive s****y electronic music.
(Rave music plays during the silence.)
Hey, what the f***, wait a second."
- M4H
Originally posted by: meltdown75
nerds that flame hip hop culture?
Originally posted by: manowar821
This thread was cute at first, now I think that you guys like it a bit too much.