Think about this..... You Pigs

ElFenix

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so are you related to the oklahoma football player turned wrestler named dr death or is it merely a coincidence?
 

MichaelD

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I don't get you guys at all. What "propaganda?" It's all true! Or do you not believe the history books?
 

What do American military cemeteries in France have to do with them being supportive of our conflict in Iraq?

The two seem unrelated to me. If they choose not to support the war, it's their decision. Dead American soldiers wouldn't have any bearing on the decision, I'd think.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: DRDEATH
MichaelD, Some people just dont get it.........:disgust:

Why, because I don't trust a flash movie with 100 American flags squeezed into a little window with inspirational music all over it? So quick you are to judge and mistrust people you don't even know. Way to be a great American.
 

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: DRDEATH
MichaelD, Some people just dont get it.........:disgust:

Why, because I don't trust a flash movie with 100 American flags squeezed into a little window with inspirational music all over it? So quick you are to judge and mistrust people you don't even know. Way to be a great American.

Exactly. The French were our allies in WWII...in Operation Iraqi Freedom, they're not. I still fail to understand the correlation between cemeteries and French support for America.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: compudog
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I don't get you guys at all. What "propaganda?" It's all true! Or do you not believe the history books?

Grrrr...

The French have been ungrateful to the USA for saving their butts for MANY years now. This latest conflict with Ir@q is just the next in a looong string of ungratefulness.

I'm out.
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: DRDEATH
MichaelD, Some people just dont get it.........:disgust:

Why, because I don't trust a flash movie with 100 American flags squeezed into a little window with inspirational music all over it? So quick you are to judge and mistrust people you don't even know. Way to be a great American.

Exactly. The French were our allies in WWII...in Operation Iraqi Freedom, they're not. I still fail to understand the correlation between cemeteries and French support for America.

Because it's always popular to hate the french.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: jumpr
What do American military cemeteries in France have to do with them being supportive of our conflict in Iraq?

The two seem unrelated to me. If they choose not to support the war, it's their decision. Dead American soldiers wouldn't have any bearing on the decision, I'd think.

Exactly, just because the French won't step in and support us, which obviously isn't neccesary at all, now the media and our government has been trying to get us turn against France for it. The US has created an "Us versus Them" mentality, along with this attitude is also the one of "with us or against us." Everything is not black and white.

 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: compudog
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I don't get you guys at all. What "propaganda?" It's all true! Or do you not believe the history books?

Grrrr...

The French have been ungrateful to the USA for saving their butts for MANY years now. This latest conflict with Ir@q is just the next in a looong string of ungratefulness.

I'm out.

Didn't hte Frech help the USA in the Revolutionary War?

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

halik

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: compudog
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I don't get you guys at all. What "propaganda?" It's all true! Or do you not believe the history books?

Grrrr...

The French have been ungrateful to the USA for saving their butts for MANY years now. This latest conflict with Ir@q is just the next in a looong string of ungratefulness.

I'm out.

Oh yeah mean since you saved them, they have to do everythign you'd want em to? Look up the revolutionary war bubba...
ww2 has nothing to do with this conflict, every country acts with theyr own best self interest (and no we're not there to liberate them)
 

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: jumpr
What do American military cemeteries in France have to do with them being supportive of our conflict in Iraq?

The two seem unrelated to me. If they choose not to support the war, it's their decision. Dead American soldiers wouldn't have any bearing on the decision, I'd think.

Exactly, just because the French won't step in and support us, which obviously isn't neccesary at all, now the media and our government has been trying to get us turn against France for it. The US has created an "Us versus Them" mentality, along with this attitude is also the one of "with us or against us." Everything is not black and white.

And ANOTHER thing...those American soldiers weren't "defending" France. They were stopping the spread of the Third Reich through Europe. It just happened that they died on French soil.

Sure we saved their butts in WWII, but we also saved the butts of many many more Europeans...not just French.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: jumpr
What do American military cemeteries in France have to do with them being supportive of our conflict in Iraq?

The two seem unrelated to me. If they choose not to support the war, it's their decision. Dead American soldiers wouldn't have any bearing on the decision, I'd think.

Exactly, just because the French won't step in and support us, which obviously isn't neccesary at all, now the media and our government has been trying to get us turn against France for it. The US has created an "Us versus Them" mentality, along with this attitude is also the one of "with us or against us." Everything is not black and white.

well said
 

halik

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on the side note,
americans didnt go to europe to liberate france... they were in war with the axis (after perl harbor). GErmany was part of the axis and US was there to defeat the axis
 

Originally posted by: halik
on the side note,
americans didnt go to europe to liberate france... they were in war with the axis (after perl harbor). GErmany was part of the axis and US was there to defeat the axis

Yup, that's what I said a couple posts up . Well put.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
so are you related to the oklahoma football player turned wrestler named dr death or is it merely a coincidence?
David Schultz?
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: jumpr
What do American military cemeteries in France have to do with them being supportive of our conflict in Iraq?

The two seem unrelated to me. If they choose not to support the war, it's their decision. Dead American soldiers wouldn't have any bearing on the decision, I'd think.

Exactly, just because the French won't step in and support us, which obviously isn't neccesary at all, now the media and our government has been trying to get us turn against France for it. The US has created an "Us versus Them" mentality, along with this attitude is also the one of "with us or against us." Everything is not black and white.



You've got to be kidding. Who the hell asked the french to support us? I (and 99% of Americans in favor of the war I'd imagine) would be happy if the french had just stayed the hell out of things without waving their veto power all over the place like it made them important or something.

In reality the nobody ever expects support from the french for good reason. One of the greatest military leaders in our countries history, General Patton, said "I'd rather have a German division in front of me than a French division behind me". Geee, yah. Over the course of history we've really looked to the french for support


Oh, and a recent poll showed that fully a third of the french that were polled hoped that the U.S. lost the war. I don't care how biased that pole was... there's no excuse for those numbers coming from people who would without a doubt be speaking German right now if it wasn't for the bravery and strength of America.

Even if we are wrong in this war the French should really just show a little bit of gratitude and STFU. Kind of like you shouldn't jump all over your parents in times they screw up because overall they've helped you more than anyone in the world. That's really what the french are. Spoiled whiny petulant 5 year olds.

But you're right though. The media's trying to spin this... Not like there aren't enough factual reasons to dislike the french or anything
 
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