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Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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Only one of those cranes had any business lifting that girder -- the one with a bajillion fucking wheels. The other cranes were too light weight, and spaced improperly. What a cluster fuck.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: skyking
Ouch.
I've watched one of these get wrecked pretty good, it was "boom whipped" by a broken choker at a real high angle, and came over the top to about 5 degrees negative....... and stopped.
http://www.cranerentalhouston....-II-sn-41715.002lg.jpg

That rig has been the workhorse of the construction industry for decades.

Manitowoc 4100 Vicon. IIRC, 230 tons basic capacity, but stick it on a ringer and the capacity goes to about 300 tons. (that's a 4100/W series 3, not the series 2 in the pic)

GOOD cranes, perhaps the best built crawlers in the industry...and the "little brother" of this one"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8fiixoGtM0
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: skyking
Ouch.
I've watched one of these get wrecked pretty good, it was "boom whipped" by a broken choker at a real high angle, and came over the top to about 5 degrees negative....... and stopped.
http://www.cranerentalhouston....-II-sn-41715.002lg.jpg

That rig has been the workhorse of the construction industry for decades.

Manitowoc 4100 Vicon. IIRC, 230 tons basic capacity, but stick it on a ringer and the capacity goes to about 300 tons. (that's a 4100/W series 3, not the series 2 in the pic)

GOOD cranes, perhaps the best built crawlers in the industry...and the "little brother" of this one"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8fiixoGtM0

The drillers were "borrowing" it, with the general's permission. they had been pulling 90' of 3' drill casing using one of these.
APE vibratory hammer.
Things started moving right along....too good.
They decided to set aside the hammer and hook onto it with the main block and an 1 3/8" choker. Boom was above 75 degrees, and they did not hook the whip into a nearby ecology block. When the choker snapped, it went over center, busted the stops and the cab glass, and both blocks went through the boom lacing. Just a little more energy and it would have landed on the Amtrak main line bridge over the river.
I was on an island mid-river with the superintendent about 50 yards away, setting a crane mat with one of these.
I'd never seen anyone really throw his hardhat before
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: skyking

The drillers were "borrowing" it, with the general's permission. they had been pulling 90' of 3' drill casing using one of these.
APE vibratory hammer.
Things started moving right along....too good.
They decided to set aside the hammer and hook onto it with the main block and an 1 3/8" choker. Boom was above 75 degrees, and they did not hook the whip into a nearby ecology block. When the choker snapped, it went over center, busted the stops and the cab glass, and both blocks went through the boom lacing. Just a little more energy and it would have landed on the Amtrak main line bridge over the river.
I was on an island mid-river with the superintendent about 50 yards away, setting a crane mat with one of these.
I'd never seen anyone really throw his hardhat before

I've driven and pulled miles and miles of sheet pile with a vibratory hammer. Leave it to a drilling crew to fuck something up...:roll:

35 years or so ago, I worked for Andrews Equipment in Spokane. They were a Komatsu dealer. You DO know that Komatsu is the japanese word for Motherfucker, don't ya?

I don't remember what part we actually ordered, but on the packing list was listed:
(1) part # 234-0987-3425 Item: FUCK

We all had a lot of fun with that...

Back then, Komatsu was crap. I understand it's gotten somewhat better over the years. I remember it having faster hydraulics, but much softer steel in its construction, including buckets and dozer blades. Seems like those were always being replaced at 2-3X what the other equipment needed.
IIRC, the ONLY Komatsu equipment I've ever run was a KT-455 dozer. (I think that's right) BIG mofo...just a bit larger than a D-9)
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Oops...Dammit, I hate it when that happens. (but I've seen similar "OH SHIT!" accidents before.)

Her accent is fucking annoying to me...but at least it's slightly better than when I call tech support.

well at least she speaks english. heh
 

CFster

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Oct 16, 1999
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The Indians have the same problem as the Chinese right now. Their infrastructure is growing so fast they're rushing to build and cutting corners.

Anybody see the Chinese tower that fell over last week?

Something like this will probably happen in Dubai too, but just because they're greedy.

 

Fayd

Diamond Member
Jun 28, 2001
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www.manwhoring.com
Originally posted by: BoomerD

35 years or so ago, I worked for Andrews Equipment in Spokane. They were a Komatsu dealer. You DO know that Komatsu is the japanese word for Motherfucker, don't ya?

according to google, it's "small pine tree".
 

Rubycon

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Aug 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: BoomerD

I've driven and pulled miles and miles of sheet pile with a vibratory hammer.

What does it look like? Sounds fun!

Oh those D9's are pretty big. A few years ago a guy hardened one with plates and terrorized a Colorado town. It's on youtube - search for killdozer. :Q
 
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Mo0o
should have outsourced that work

Because cheaper labor is always better...:roll:

The biggest expense in that whole accident is gonna be the loss of the cranes and beam. The loss of life is probably no big deal in such an overpopulated 3rd world country as this.

yeah, we think of everyone as expendable labor :roll:

stfu, unless you actually know something. don't spout some stupid shit just cause you want to sound smart.
 

narzy

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Feb 26, 2000
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I sorry, I dun fucked up ur krane

They managed to kill six people the day before this happened...
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: BoomerD

I've driven and pulled miles and miles of sheet pile with a vibratory hammer.

What does it look like? Sounds fun!

Oh those D9's are pretty big. A few years ago a guy hardened one with plates and terrorized a Colorado town. It's on youtube - search for killdozer. :Q

I remember the Colorado incident. There was another D-9 on the rampage in Gilette, Wyoming...maybe in the early 80's. He went over cars, through apartment buildings & houses. They finally had to shoot him to stop him.

Anyway, here's some youtube vids of vibratory hammers at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OlBA38MCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIldg8Bk-bw

Not very exciting to watch...but a good crew can drive a lot of pile in a day with the right hammer for the soil conditions.
 

BoomerD

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Generally hydraulic powered. They have a large power pack and connect with hoses.

http://www.icefe.com/products/..._vibratory_hammers.htm

IIRC, they work by a large hydraulically driven eccentric in the hammer...that creates the vibration.

I'm usually in the seat of the crane, so I can't really tell you what it'd feel like if you touched the beam...but I doubt it'd be pleasant...They vibrate the hell out of the crane and surrounding ground.

When I worked for one of the local electric companies, we had to do a hazmat remediation in our yard. (they dipped poles in creosote decades ago, plus leaking underground fuel tanks)
They hired a contractor to come in and drive sheets where the yard butted up to the railroad right-of-way.
Even though the ground was basically just sandy soil, you could feel it inside the buildings a couple of hundred yards away.
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
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Hahaha creosote and pentachlorophenol - probably best wood preservatives around particularly when pressure treated with the stuff!
 
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