Thinkpad T460p - What a Disappointment

[JNavas]

It's likely such information would apply to later models as well.

It doesn't.

It's likely such information would apply to later models as well. Also, I question your authority to make such requests.

Common courtesy.

 

[simas]

I for one is in the market for laptop again after trying 450S for a month and returning it back to e-seller. 3 crashes where system tells me it no longer has HDD (everything fully patched including BIOS), boot processes taking 30+ minutes stuck on Lenovo screen. really wanted to like it, good specs, expandable memory, reasonably combination of performance and weight (not ultrabook shiny toy). build quality so so..

 

[JNavas]

I for one is in the market for laptop again after trying 450S for a month and returning it back to e-seller. 3 crashes where system tells me it no longer has HDD (everything fully patched including BIOS), boot processes taking 30+ minutes stuck on Lenovo screen. really wanted to like it, good specs, expandable memory, reasonably combination of performance and weight (not ultrabook shiny toy). build quality so so..

Sounds like you got a bad HDD or SSD. Was Lenovo Warranty Support not helpful?

 

[simas]

Sorry for delay in responding - Lenovo support was excellent in their experience including willingness to overnight a spare HDD to me. my concern was build quality (my mouse controller thingy peeled off and felt flimsy) and getting confidence in laptop working overall - I was not getting good information on the net or from Lenovo on what the root cause for these failures to recognize HDD was as Lenovo forums were full of posts "it ended up being motherboard problem, had to send unit in for full replacement". Great experience with support, not great experience with the product , all within first 30 days - so I sent it back and got 100% refund and am still in the market for a good 'business' laptop. don't care about much on how thin we can make it competition, or what ports we can take out race - want a medium size, good quality machine I can reliably dock for multi monitor/external KB support, with higher expandable memory support for light hyper-v virtualization.
budget <$1500 Any recommendations?
the HP Edge or whatever their new ultrabook is , and Dell XPS all look nice but they are hardly business laptops.

 

[JNavas]

... want a medium size, good quality machine I can reliably dock for multi monitor/external KB support, with higher expandable memory support for light hyper-v virtualization.
budget <$1500 Any recommendations?
the HP Edge or whatever their new ultrabook is , and Dell XPS all look nice but they are hardly business laptops.

Sure. ThinkPad T460p. Seriously.

 

[simas]

... just got burned on ThinkPad , may be a bad sample? need to think it over some before willing to try Lenovo again. on paper, they are everything I want - not flashy (stupid) status toys but reliable tools , for the road and for the office (accessories, warranty ,service). ...

 

[Jungstar]

Ever since Lenovo took over IBM's laptop lines, I haven't been liking them as much, used to swear by IBM Thinkpads for over a decade, I still had a 390E (Pentium II 233MHz) laying around up until last summer where i took it to recycling (ran Linux on it and used it to stream Tunein and Sirius radio while outside).

I keep hearing/reading the same again and again. "I wish things were like in the old days". It is funny. The people that used the T430 are also complaining. And in 5 years when we get a T490p, then people will complain about it being different from the good old T460p or T440p and the golden days of modular laptops that could be opened! And later people complain that they don't have a laptop because it will all be cloud based computers... Eventually, keyboards will disappear... ahh rage!

Joke aside, I get the trackpad, but IBM days? Come on! The "Make IBM Great Again". Stop it

 

[John Navas]

I keep hearing/reading the same again and again. "I wish things were like in the old days". It is funny. The people that used the T430 are also complaining. And in 5 years when we get a T490p, then people will complain about it being different from the good old T460p or T440p and the golden days of modular laptops that could be opened! And later people complain that they don't have a laptop because it will all be cloud based computers... Eventually, keyboards will disappear... ahh rage!
Joke aside, I get the trackpad, but IBM days? Come on! The "Make IBM Great Again". Stop it

You must not have experience with the true IBM ThinkPad machines,
which were superbly engineered, built, and supported.

 

[UMassMike]

I loved the Lenovo ThinkPads up to the T430P, having been an old IBM ThinkPad user. My T420P had the old style trackpad and felt rock solid. I still think they are a great manufacturer, but the style of trackpads and keyboards in all of these modern laptops leaves something to be desired. I'm a MacBook Air user and I hate the new MacBook keyboards, but that is totally off topic here.

 

[gunjan]

There's a new article here that now confirms the death of the Synaptics powered ThinkPad "TrackPad" and now we'll have silver colored ThinkPad as well.

 

[John Navas]

There's a new article here that now confirms the death of the Synaptics powered ThinkPad "TrackPad" and now we'll have silver colored ThinkPad as well.

The touchpad/trackpad change appears to be software rather than hardware, co-developed by Synaptics: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...-touchpad-drivers-give-us-precision-touchpad/

 

[John Navas]

" the T470p lacks Thunderbolt 3 or USB Type C"

 

[Valantar]

" the T470p lacks Thunderbolt 3 or USB Type C"

Where is that quote from? I can't find it in any of the 5-6 articles I've looked through. If true, that's a shame. It would be the perfect candidate for an external GPU. Also odd considering the reported push for USB-C and TB3 from Lenovo.

 

[John Navas]

Where is that quote from? I can't find it in any of the 5-6 articles I've looked through. If true, that's a shame. It would be the perfect candidate for an external GPU. Also odd considering the reported push for USB-C and TB3 from Lenovo.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo...T470-T570-T470s-T470p-L470-L570.189047.0.html

Looks like Lenovo did a bare minimum update to the p.

 

[Valantar]

Well, that sucks. Did they run out of engineers? Guess I'll have to cross my fingers for them updating it next time around.