"Third" (second) debate thread

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purbeast0

No Lifer
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So, your mind turned one syllable into three & the long "o" sound in "good" into the short "o" sound in "go". So it really should be "goo ahead", or what?
My mind didn't turn anything into anything.

He says "go ahead".
 

repoman0

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Maybe it’s a regional thing. I heard go ahead too. Doesn’t matter, I have no doubt that he was thinking “good”
 

Paratus

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Look at his lips when he says it. He's clearly saying go ahead.
I heard it rather than saw him say it as I was walking away from the TV at the time and what I heard was clipped “good” over the top of what Biden was just finishing saying.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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No.

He says "go ahead" and is talking to the moderator who just said "lets move on" before Biden got his final word in.

Do your guy's ears and eyes not work or something?
I'm questioning yours. BTW for the person who liked your post. I heard what I heard, fuck you.
 

MrPickins

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May 24, 2003
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Kind of interesting to see how the perception has shifted on energy. Hillary said that coal was going down with or without her (this has happened) and lets help those people retrain for relevant work and was called a bitch. Biden states his intent to help the country transition off of oil and barely a peep.

Trump thinks for some reason that he got Biden on that one because his brain is stuck decades behind the country. Texas and Oklahoma did everything short of a low intensity armed conflict with each other to land the next Tesla plant.

Also, look at his rant on how bad wind power is.

Clearly he doesn't realize that traditionally right-leaning states are the highest producers of electric power from wind...
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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Good. Go on.
Really don't care. Do u?

He got 4 years of meaningless legislation except shitty tax cuts for the rich.
Nonstop assault to every institution this country has.
A man child who can't stay on task for more than 20 minutes and rage quits after simple questions.
A leader who can't lead. Refuses to lead. Is incapable of leading.
While over 300,000 American excess deaths have happened in the last 10 months.
A man that is incapable of speaking the truth.
Supines to dictators across the world.
Has persecuted nearly every marginalized community in this country.
Is a white nationalist apologist.
Has never revealed his conflicts of interest.
And is clinging to his political future by trying to plant Russian disinformation for years against his opponent.

There is nothing this man has done, and I only use that term based on age. Let's be real. Man child is the correct term. Nothing this man child has done in the last 4 years makes him remotely qualified to keep his job.
 

K1052

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Also, look at his rant on how bad wind power is.

Clearly he doesn't realize that traditionally right-leaning states are the highest producers of electric power from wind...

Wind power (and increasingly solar) is a tremendous deal for land owners in the midwest. It is the only crop you can plant guaranteed to pay out year after year.

Those people should be just pounding the table for more transmission lines to the coasts.
 

Jhhnn

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Wind power (and increasingly solar) is a tremendous deal for land owners in the midwest. It is the only crop you can plant guaranteed to pay out year after year.

Those people should be just pounding the table for more transmission lines to the coasts.

It's the only way to make any money at all from some overgrazed western range land.
 
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Ajay

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Wind power (and increasingly solar) is a tremendous deal for land owners in the midwest. It is the only crop you can plant guaranteed to pay out year after year.

Those people should be just pounding the table for more transmission lines to the coasts.
IIRC, power loss is too high over those distances to be economical. If only some scientists could get 'room temperature' super conductors working under reasonable conditions - we'd be all set.
 

K1052

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IIRC, power loss is too high over those distances to be economical. If only some scientists could get 'room temperature' super conductors working under reasonable conditions - we'd be all set.

You lose some power but less with HVDC. Phil Anschtuz isn't running one from Wyoming to Las Vegas to loose money.
 
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hal2kilo

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Demanding the jobs come to you is a losing proposition just about every time. Doubly so in places that depend on single industries. We've moved several times for work. Coal mining except for met will essentially cease in 10 years due to market forces. Coal miners have lots of relevant skills for the construction industry so I'd generally propose we build a lot more shit (housing, renewable energy projects, infrastructure).



If you want to see where the rust belt auto jobs went one need not go as far south as Mexico. Try Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, etc.



Following the track of every single product town since time immemorial.
The west is littered with mining bust ghost towns. Maybe it's West Virginia's turn.
 

Lanyap

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Is he trying to hide his gut?



I don't think so. More than a few people noticed that he almost always has at least one hand on the podium. When he gesticulates with both hands he has to lean on the podium. Medical issue other than COVID?


 
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I don't think so. More than a few people noticed that he almost always has at least one hand on the podium. When he gesticulates with both hands he has to lean on the podium. Medical issue other than COVID?



I think he’s got bad hips & knees. He’s a big guy, lugging that weight around takes its toll.
I’m no expert but it does explain his weird standing posture and tendency to grip things for balance like podiums or rails or generals when on a ramp.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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I think he’s got bad hips & knees. He’s a big guy, lugging that weight around takes its toll.
I’m no expert but it does explain his weird standing posture and tendency to grip things for balance like podiums or rails or generals when on a ramp.

Why does anybody care? FDR used a wheelchair. At least he wasn't crazy as fuck, which is the problem with Trump entirely.
 

ivwshane

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Why does anybody care? FDR used a wheelchair. At least he wasn't crazy as fuck, which is the problem with Trump entirely.

The only person that cares is trump, his narcissism sees any ailment as a weakness.
 

sactoking

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Ok, so I didn't watch the debate last night (why would I?). I did view the clip in question this morning with the knowledge that some people heard "good" and others "go ahead." Keep in mind that in the conversation of worst presidents in US history I believe the discussion starts and ends with the unindicted co-conspirator. That being said....

He clearly didn't say "good."

He also clearly didn't say "go ahead."

What he said was something like "goo-hud," where the 'goo' sounds like 'good' and the 'hud' sounds kinda like 'hood.' His mouth and jaw clearly didn't make movements that would coincide with 'go ahead,' they look much more like they match with 'good,' but the sound is definitely polysyllabic.

I can think of three possible scenarios:
  1. He said "good" but mush-mouthed it so bad that it became polysyllabic. I'm disinclined to believe this because he usually doesn't have too much trouble with monosyllabic words. It also doesn't seem like a typical pronunciation error. It is plausible because we know that he sometimes gets mealy-mouthed when his dentures fall out.
  2. He said "go ahead" but mush-mouthed it so bad that it became a single word. I'm disinclined to believe this because he clearly only says one word, based on his mouth movements. Based on my experience of his speech patterns the words that come out of his pie hole tend to string together into gibberish "sentences" but he doesn't typically speak made-up gibberish words. It is plausible because we know that he sometimes gets mealy-mouthed when his dentures fall out. Also, since he can't speak over and interrupt Biden then imploring the moderator to move on while Biden is still speaking would be the next best thing in his mind.
  3. He started to say "good" but caught himself and tried to adjust to "go ahead." I'm disinclined to believe this because it assumes Trump has a minimal amount of intelligence, self-awareness and impulse control to recognize that he's going to say something, catch himself, and change his statement mid-word. It is plausible because it most closely matches the sound that came out of his face rectum.
 

fleshconsumed

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Feb 21, 2002
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Both performed better than expected. If the debates were judged on objective substance Biden would be the clear winner. I just don't see how anyone could think Trump won the debate after seeing him pull out the same old bullshit about his taxes being under audit, same bullshit about how his bestest most beautiful health plan that is going to be cheaper, cover everybody and protect preexisting conditions is just around the corner, same crap he told in 2016, how vaccine could potentially be only a few weeks away, how using army to distribute vaccine will make it go faster.

But then again most people will just hear what they want to hear which is why debate polls reflect general polling numbers.

One thing that I want to say is that it was really refreshing to hear Biden speak with such conviction about how healthcare is a right and how everyone deserves right to affordable healthcare.
 
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K1052

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Both performed better than expected. If the debates were judged on objective substance Biden would be the clear winner. I just don't see how anyone could think Trump won the debate after seeing him pull out the same old bullshit about his taxes being under audit, same bullshit about how his bestest most beautiful health plan that is going to be cheaper, cover everybody and protect preexisting conditions is just around the corner, same crap he told in 2016, how vaccine could potentially be only a few weeks away, how using army to distribute vaccine will make it go faster.

Trump has major "the contractor you hired to redo the bathroom is going on 2 years of the job, needs another check, and will be done next week" vibes.

So weird how even a bunch of his supports say he's dishonest.
 
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