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TheGardener

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Why post in a forum, when you can follow Kim Kardashian on Twitter along with millions of other zombies. Does ATOT have the fun of playing Pokeman Go, where you can be led into park and robbed at gunpoint? Millennials have refined fun.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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Why post in a forum, when you can follow Kim Kardashian on Twitter along with millions of other zombies. Does ATOT have the fun of playing Pokeman Go, where you can be led into park and robbed at gunpoint? Millennials have refined fun.

there are a lot of millennials on this forum, you goon
 

Sheep221

Golden Member
Oct 28, 2012
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To a certain degree(at least on PC themed forums) there is not much to be discussed anymore, performance leaps on both software and hardware levels are small to non existent, everyone probably knows everything about X86 computers by now that is publicly available. It's not the forum platform per se but it is the site's specialization that causes the declining interest. Upgrade-related questions by newcomers are overly repeating themselves. Creativity went down as well, not so long ago, overclocking, modding, tweaking etc were all things that were every time an unique and different creations. Today you just buy that in store because chinese do it cheap and purchases based on reviews will cause to everyone end up with same looking and same working rig.
Computers are old now, everyone has one and your grandma has three of them. At some point in the past, having a computer felt kind of unique because not everyone had it, now everyone has it. Computer culture did also span to Lan parties and internet cafes, which are extinct now because of home broadband and gaming laptops. And some of the computer games and social media sites became pathological addictions rather than tool for spare time entertainment.

To a bright side of things I definitely love my i5 with SSD and 24 inch screen hooked up to 100Mbps line instead of 13 inch CRT flickering at 60 hertz that I used with my 486DX2 desktop at the time and 9600 bit modem. There are no dial-ups and no night and day tariffs for dial-up lines and my printer does not weigh a ton!

Btw, reddit, twitter, facebook etc, these sites all have awful, slow and bugous interface... I still like traditional vBulletin or PHP bulletin board system much more.
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Btw, reddit, twitter, facebook etc, these sites all have awful, slow and bugous interface... I still like traditional vBulletin or PHP bulletin board system much more.

They don't go there for the interface. They go there for the human interaction. Even interacting with the dumbest mofo on the planet will trump the best interface every day of the week and twice on Sunday. That's why it's hilarious to see a company buy the forums and invest their resources to changing the interface when the old one was already miles ahead of anything offered by sites with more than twice as much traffic, while neglecting to understand the human to human interaction they desire.

You may ask why pray tell would interaction with the dumbest sack of molten marshmallow for brained troglodytes beat a great interface. Simple. People come to forums seeking information on a question they have, but that is not why they stay. They stay for the feeling they get when they get into their first argument and think they've won. Who would be easy to beat in an argument but someone of literally inferior intellect?

They come to have their questions answered by those of superior knowledge and/or intellect. But once that is over, they stay to beat the snot out of the dummies in an argument and feel superior themselves. There is also the emotional validation aspect.

There's a funny cartoon out there of some guy on his computer calling out to his significant other: "Honey I'll be right there but first I have to prove this guy wrong." Well I'm paraphrasing as I don't remember the exact quote, but that's the gist of it.

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MongGrel

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They don't go there for the interface. They go there for the human interaction. Even interacting with the dumbest mofo on the planet will trump the best interface every day of the week and twice on Sunday. That's why it's hilarious to see a company buy the forums and invest their resources to changing the interface when the old one was already miles ahead of anything offered by sites with more than twice as much traffic, while neglecting to understand the human to human interaction they desire.

You may ask why pray tell would interaction with the dumbest sack of molten marshmallow for brained troglodytes beat a great interface. Simple. People come to forums seeking information on a question they have, but that is not why they stay. They stay for the feeling they get when they get into their first argument and think they've won.

There's a funny cartoon out there of some guy on his computer calling out to his significant other: "Honey I'll be right there but first I have to prove this guy wrong." Well I'm paraphrasing as I don't remember the exact quote, but that's the gist of it.

 

Staples

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Say what you want about the future popularity of forums, I still get way more than a I like when doing a web search.
 
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disappoint

Lifer
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Thank you Captain Irrelevant.



Nobody understands? Oh but I understand even if you don't. Don't worry kids there's nothing to fear even though Dr. Pizza is at the door, Allisolm is on the dresser, Naer is at the foot of the bed on his cellphone, MonGgrel is under the bed sticking out his tongue and some anonymous BLM social justice warrior is giving you the finger.
 
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Sheep221

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They don't go there for the interface. They go there for the human interaction. Even interacting with the dumbest mofo on the planet will trump the best interface every day of the week and twice on Sunday. That's why it's hilarious to see a company buy the forums and invest their resources to changing the interface when the old one was already miles ahead of anything offered by sites with more than twice as much traffic, while neglecting to understand the human to human interaction they desire.

You may ask why pray tell would interaction with the dumbest sack of molten marshmallow for brained troglodytes beat a great interface. Simple. People come to forums seeking information on a question they have, but that is not why they stay. They stay for the feeling they get when they get into their first argument and think they've won. Who would be easy to beat in an argument but someone of literally inferior intellect?

They come to have their questions answered by those of superior knowledge and/or intellect. But once that is over, they stay to beat the snot out of the dummies in an argument and feel superior themselves. There is also the emotional validation aspect.

There's a funny cartoon out there of some guy on his computer calling out to his significant other: "Honey I'll be right there but first I have to prove this guy wrong." Well I'm paraphrasing as I don't remember the exact quote, but that's the gist of it.
It is somewhat true, you are correct that they don't come there for the interface but interaction, however it has been proven over a time probably to anyone that sites with bad interface usually do have a crap content, and FB and all that social media nonsense usually does have a crap content. Reddit and Facebook groups are much less likely to have any good people around the subject they represent, unlike established forums which do host dozens of qualified professionals, hobbyists and enthusiasts. Forums are better structured and better archived because it's easily to retrieve old threads via any search engine and so on, do that on FB lol. I think that for enthusiasts forums will always be here and be preferred method of interaction. FB is for those who want to share pictures and basic information, and offload of these users from forums does not bother me or those who want to argue all the time, they are welcome on FB where they can collect likes(wut, likes are here too, nevermind).

To note the new forum change, I really like it, the vBulletin with its original theme felt like we are still stuck in year 2000.
 

KingstonU

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I never could get into reddit, the interface is not intuitive at all or flow well and just frustrates me. Though perhaps I've just been doing it wrong.
 
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ultimatebob

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Let's be honest, it would be that way here too if given the chance.

If we had a self-moderation system here, you're probably right. Take a look at Slashdot... if you say anything positive about a Microsoft product or anything negative about Linux there, you have a good chance of getting a -1 rating on your post.

On the bright side, I bet that everything that Mayne ever posted would magically disappear overnight
 
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Carson Dyle

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That's why it's hilarious to see a company buy the forums and invest their resources to changing the interface when the old one was already miles ahead of anything offered by sites with more than twice as much traffic, while neglecting to understand the human to human interaction they desire.

Purch is a bottom feeder in the digital content industry. They buy dying sites like Anandtech for the residual traffic and nothing more. The only reason the forum software was changed was that they were virtually forced to do so due to the security holes of vBulletin. Who knows the real reason they changed to Xenforo, but it's a trendy choice and accommodates browsing by smartphone better tha vBulletin.

As far as "resources" being invested ... you've got to be kidding. They've put very few resources into the changeover. Which is actually to be expected given that the revenue stream here has to be laughably small.

They haven't even managed yet to produce an alternative theme for the forums, despite weeks now of complaints and suggestions. Who knows if they even have anyone working on it. Another example was the database migration and not managing to transfer a custom field like the email address required for the For Sale forum. If the developers were too clueless to modify the migration code to include fields like that, it could have easily been done after the fact.
 

TheGardener

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They haven't even managed yet to produce an alternative theme for the forums, despite weeks now of complaints and suggestions. Who knows if they even have anyone working on it. Another example was the database migration and not managing to transfer a custom field like the email address required for the For Sale forum. If the developers were too clueless to modify the migration code to include fields like that, it could have easily been done after the fact.

Don't take this personally, but can you explain why they should? It is very hard to see how the site monetizes these forums. So how much effort should they expend? Yes, I am told there are ads, but even the most non-tech savvy members (like me) are blocking them.
 

Carson Dyle

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2012
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Don't take this personally, but can you explain why they should? It is very hard to see how the site monetizes these forums. So how much effort should they expend? Yes, I am told there are ads, but even the most non-tech savvy members (like me) are blocking them.

I think that's exactly what I said. They have very little incentive to put more resources into this site than it takes to just keep it operational.
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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I disagree as to the extent of the effect of social media. Other forums I am a part of are thriving as AT gradually dies. But then those other forums don't lifetime ban many of their most prolific and popular users. Users generate the content on forums, and by getting rid of them, you're gradually causing the forums to die off. I'd say more, but then I'll get banned again under the much abused "mod callout" rule.

I'll say this though: I've never seen mods on other sites generate so much hate that users went out and created their own forums. And AT users went out and created three other forums by my last count.

Purch is a bottom feeder in the digital content industry. They buy dying sites like Anandtech for the residual traffic and nothing more.

I learned early on that the guys from Purch do not give a s--t about improving these forums. They'll just ride it into the toilet and blame something else, like the rise of social media or something.




We have told you multiple times where to go if you want to complain about the moderation.
It is not here.


esquared
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I'd say more like undead, considering the rate of necro thread around here...
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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I never could get into reddit, the interface is not intuitive at all or flow well and just frustrates me. Though perhaps I've just been doing it wrong.

It is trash and I've seen a lot of people complain about it, so it just ain't us. You'd probably get used it if you liked the site, but in general it's way too full of know-it-all, elitist tools for me. Reminds me of the computer lab back at school. *shudder*
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
13,990
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I think that everyone uses sites like Reddit now. Some of their subreddits are good, but some of them have such a herd mentality that they'll downvote your posts or comments to oblivion if you dare to disagree with them.

All of reddit is trash except for certain subreddits. There is the only refuge you will find in that god forsaken place.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
13,990
180
106
It is trash and I've seen a lot of people complain about it, so it just ain't us. You'd probably get used it if you liked the site, but in general it's way too full of know-it-all, elitist tools for me. Reminds me of the computer lab back at school. *shudder*

Good, then dont go there, even if you are probably perfect for most of reddit.
 
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