This is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH.

[manowar821]

*IN AMURIKAH WE SPECK INGLISH, YEEHAAWWW*

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: evident
most immigrants know that they need to learn english, theres no need to rub it in their face.

Sure there is. Where's the motivation for them to learn when candy asses bend over backwards to make sure no one is offended?

How many languages should we make out signs in? If you don't speak English then you're SOL.

 

[purbeast0]

wow it looks like the shop owner was trying to intentionally sound like a dick with that sign.

 

[Juno]

wit onions please.

 

[SirStev0]

Geno is doing this for publicity, just like all the other controversies he gets into...

Maybe if he spent a little more time making cheesesteaks, his place wouldn't suck compared to Pat's...

 

[SunnyD]

Stupid. My favorite is that when going for US Citizenship, you don't need to know English. DUH!

 

[Modelworks]

There is a lawsuit right now in North Carolina.
The county office used an automated phone answering system, that had 1 for english, 2 for spanish.
They removed that option and when they did the local latin population filed court papers to make them put it back, and the court agreed.
Instead the county removed the answering system, and replaced it with real people.
So when you call you get a real person answering now, not a machine.
Those people don't speak anything but english.
The county also removed all signs in buildings that were bilingual.

The latin population again took them to court.
The courts said the county was just doing what they did to try to get around the court ruling.
The county is staying firm on their decision.

I understand that its hard for non-english speakers to be here.

But english is the main language and by putting too much support for other languages you lessen the need for non-english speakers to learn english.
What happens when other nationalities demand support ? Do we now have to have signs and phone options for greek, russian, chinese ?

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Deeko
+1 for the ruling!!

This is great. People that complain about that sign are morons - just order in fucking english! You're in a country that speaks English almost exclusively, if you can't say "whiz with", well....don't go to Genos.

That is the point... It isn't a problem... There aren't foriegners ordering in Russian nor illegals ordering in spanish... He is just a tool..

Geno's and Pat's are right outside the Italian district in Philly.... THE ITALIAN AREA ... if you can't understand "MAMMA MIA I LIKA A CHEESA STEAKA" You shouldn't be in the cheese steak business.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Exactly. This kind of thing is applauded by the narrow-minded twits.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Deeko
+1 for the ruling!!

This is great. People that complain about that sign are morons - just order in fucking english! You're in a country that speaks English almost exclusively, if you can't say "whiz with", well....don't go to Genos.

That is the point... It isn't a problem... There aren't foriegners ordering in Russian nor illegals ordering in spanish... He is just a tool..

Geno's and Pat's are right outside the Italian district in Philly.... THE ITALIAN AREA ... if you can't understand "MAMMA MIA I LIKA A CHEESA STEAKA" You shouldn't be in the cheese steak business.

haha I know where it is, I've probably been to pats 500 times (and Genos but once...when pats was mysteriously closed).

I can't stand Genos, and his motives aside, he has a POINT, and one that I totally agree with.

 

[Kev]

Most pointless sign ever. If you don't know english how the fuck are you going to read their dumb sign.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Deeko
+1 for the ruling!!

This is great. People that complain about that sign are morons - just order in fucking english! You're in a country that speaks English almost exclusively, if you can't say "whiz with", well....don't go to Genos.

That is the point... It isn't a problem... There aren't foriegners ordering in Russian nor illegals ordering in spanish... He is just a tool..

Geno's and Pat's are right outside the Italian district in Philly.... THE ITALIAN AREA ... if you can't understand "MAMMA MIA I LIKA A CHEESA STEAKA" You shouldn't be in the cheese steak business.

haha I know where it is, I've probably been to pats 500 times (and Genos but once...when pats was mysteriously closed).

I can't stand Genos, and his motives aside, he has a POINT, and one that I totally agree with.

I guess... I worked at a pizza joint for quite a few years and I served quite a few people Spanish speakers (these were guys covered in paint and ratty clothing in big groups, I am not saying they are illegals but they were def laborers) I never had a problem with them...

I really don't think they ever asked me for a Carne con Queso...
They said Cheesesteak no onions or Pepperoni 1 slice in a spanish accent... a little hard to hear but lets be honest... Like Philly people speak with a completely understandable accent.

 

[Deeko]

haha I'll have you know my English is plenty understandable, thank you.

Speaking in a spanish ACCENT is fine, I'm sure. But really...if you can't say "whiz with" or "provolone without" or maybe even go wild and say "2 pizza with" in at least an understandable manner...what do you expect them to do?

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Deeko
haha I'll have you know my English is plenty understandable, thank you.

Speaking in a spanish ACCENT is fine, I'm sure. But really...if you can't say "whiz with" or "provolone without" or maybe even go wild and say "2 pizza with" in at least an understandable manner...what do you expect them to do?

I agree with you... My argument is that they can say it...

Geno just likes his name in the paper, so when everyone was up in arms about illegals... he sees free advertising..

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: rivan
My view on this is that the world (yes - world) would be better off with a single common language. I'm actually rather impartial to what language that ends up being (my inner lazy bastard says English would be great) - there are many, many factors that would go into choosing it.

However, that's impractical. It's equally impractical to expect a state to operate in more than one language. I understand we have many Spanish speakers in the US; that in itself doesn't bother me. I think it makes good business sense for anyone with a business in an area with many Spanish-speakers to have some bi-lingual people working there. I draw the line, however, at using my tax dollars to make extra signs, manuals, reference materials, schoolbooks, pay for training or anything else on a state level that in effect removes the impetus to learn the language of the land.

I'd also like a common language.
Previously, it would have been impossible to coordinate because of the relative isolation that regions of the world had. If you wanted to go from Europe to Australia, you'd best bring an expedition team, and expect several of them to die en route. Now you pay for an airline ticket and you're on your way, with a pretty darned good chance of getting there alive.
But with the speed that information travels today, maintaining one language would be much easier.

 

[sdifox]

Time to start the Make English the Official Language movement, again.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Ah - I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to help me in English if I were in a non-English speaking country. I'd be grateful if they did, but by NO means would I expect it. Why would you??

From being on cruise ships, American tourists tend to make us look really bad overseas. They'll get mad if someone can't speak English---in Spain.

I find that if I just speak English with the accent of the country I'm in, that works really well:

"Excuse me. I would like to go to zeee hotel."

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Exactly. This kind of thing is applauded by the narrow-minded twits.

I don't think you understand the real issue. I live in South Florida so obviously Spanish is everywhere. The real problems occur when you got the Spanish speaking immigrants refusing to even try to speak the language. They get upset whenever they walk into a store and the person they are speaking to only speaks English. They feel it is unfair. They feel that if you live in a city that is multi-lingual then you are in the wrong by not providing them service in their native language. They refuse to try and speak English. These same immigrants will also treat customers who only speak English with less respect and will often provide lesser quality service even if those English speaking customers try to speak their language. Pretty much they come to America in order to get away from their country because of how horrible it is, but they feel as if we are some how forcing our culture on them as they struggle to try and preserve it which sometimes leads to resentment. I can understand wanting to preserve your own culture, but I do not understand wanting to live amongst another culture while rejecting it at the same time. You can't have your cake and eat it too when it comes to that sort of thing and then expect life to be smooth sailing.

Those who at least actively try to make the language barriers work are not a problem. They may never master it themselves, but those are the same immigrants whose children will grow up being very much bi-lingual.

 

[Saulbadguy]

There is no way the crude form of grunting that is spoken in Philadelphia is anything close to English.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: GenHoth

Originally posted by: alien42

what about tourists?

I want and pointing at the menu is usually sufficient.

If you can read English then you should be able to speak it, doncha ya thing?

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
But english is the main language and by putting too much support for other languages you lessen the need for non-english speakers to learn english.

Exactly. So many people are too lazy and don't feel the necessity to learn it. I see this first-hand.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Modelworks
But english is the main language and by putting too much support for other languages you lessen the need for non-english speakers to learn english.

Exactly. So many people are too lazy and don't feel the necessity to learn it. I see this first-hand.

Agree. Whenever I go to the North End in Boston, it amazes me to see elderly Italians still don't know english after being here for 50 years. I mean if they're not going to learn, how do they expect Mexicans who haven't been here this long to learn.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

Yes, then the natives make fun of you for trying to imitate them.

Personally, when a non-speaker tries to speak chinese to me with a smile, I smile back but inside I'm calling them a farking douchebag. No offense.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

Yes, then the natives make fun of you for trying to imitate them.

Despite the making fun of and the occasional snide remark, I really enjoy visiting other countries and trying to speak their language. In general, it is a lot of fun plus it helps broaden one's horizons for when they come back to their home country.