This is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH.

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

:thumbsup:

Anyway, Gino's is a private business and should be allowed to display any sign they want. Don't like it? Then walk across the street to Pat's. Gotta love capitalism.

 

[NanoStuff]

THIS IS AMERICA, SPEAK AMERICAN NOT ENGLISH!

 

[Nitemare]

Where did they find english-speaking cook?. I haven't seen a fast food english speaking cook in years.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
THIS IS AMERICA, SPEAK AMERICAN NOT ENGLISH!

exactly

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

:thumbsup:

Anyway, Gino's is a private business and should be allowed to display any sign they want. Don't like it? Then walk across the street to Pat's. Gotta love capitalism.

Agreed.

Stupid yes, against the law no

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I do - I'll always at a minimum make an attempt at bungling the language of the land before resorting to English.

My view on this is that the world (yes - world) would be better off with a single common language. I'm actually rather impartial to what language that ends up being (my inner lazy bastard says English would be great) - there are many, many factors that would go into choosing it.

However, that's impractical. It's equally impractical to expect a state to operate in more than one language. I understand we have many Spanish speakers in the US; that in itself doesn't bother me. I think it makes good business sense for anyone with a business in an area with many Spanish-speakers to have some bi-lingual people working there. I draw the line, however, at using my tax dollars to make extra signs, manuals, reference materials, schoolbooks, pay for training or anything else on a state level that in effect removes the impetus to learn the language of the land.

America is "The Melting Pot" - or so I learned as a child. It's not the "Chunky-Stew-where-everything-enjoys-the-sauce-but-maintains-it's-own-independence-at-the-same-time Pot"

I think sign language should be taught in schools or at least an alternative to the mandatory French, Spanish, Japanese, etc. classes. Signing is the only true "Universal" language.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
There is no way the crude form of grunting that is spoken in Philadelphia is anything close to English.

Ha ha. I was rethinking this issue and decided the sign is probably there for the regular native born mouthbreathers that have trouble articulating in the language of their mother country.

 

[Xavier434]

One consistency that you will find in South Florida and other places in the US where there is a a high foreign population is that the ones which do not speak English well or refuse to speak it at all are the same people who speak their own language like it was chopped liver. Hell, the Hispanics down here hate the kinds of Hispanics I am talking about more than most of the Americans that were born here! They feel it makes them look bad. They believe they are ignorant leeches. That should say something.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
THIS IS AMERICA, SPEAK AMERICAN NOT ENGLISH!

exactly

rofl. MORANS! I'm going to show this to my girlfriend who's a die-hard cardinals fan!

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I do - I'll always at a minimum make an attempt at bungling the language of the land before resorting to English.

My view on this is that the world (yes - world) would be better off with a single common language. I'm actually rather impartial to what language that ends up being (my inner lazy bastard says English would be great) - there are many, many factors that would go into choosing it.

However, that's impractical. It's equally impractical to expect a state to operate in more than one language. I understand we have many Spanish speakers in the US; that in itself doesn't bother me. I think it makes good business sense for anyone with a business in an area with many Spanish-speakers to have some bi-lingual people working there. I draw the line, however, at using my tax dollars to make extra signs, manuals, reference materials, schoolbooks, pay for training or anything else on a state level that in effect removes the impetus to learn the language of the land.

America is "The Melting Pot" - or so I learned as a child. It's not the "Chunky-Stew-where-everything-enjoys-the-sauce-but-maintains-it's-own-independence-at-the-same-time Pot"

english is the main language for most of the world. if there was one language to be considered universal it would be english. but that doesn't mean that speaking other languages should be discouraged.

 

[Xylitol]

This definitely makes sense. This is why I'd refuse to go to Mexico or Europe if I had to even if I hated America since I don't know any language besides English (know bits of spanish)

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Pat's ftw....I prefer my cheesesteak witout onions and politics.

lol. this is the one across from Geno's right? I just watched a travel channel EP yesterday, pats vs genos.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

Yep, I had the same experience at most places.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

Yep, I had the same experience at most places.

We were in one of the big cities in Japan (not tokyo) and nobody spoke a lick of English. We had trouble making sense of the train ticket system and nobody had any idea what we tried to say. It came down to gesturing.

 

[Molondo]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

Yep, I had the same experience at most places.

France? Nobody wanted to speak to me in English. I hated France for their lack of hospitality towards outsiders.

And yes, i tried speaking French (which was almost non existent).

 

[nanette1985]

This thread is making me hungry for cheesesteak.

Ironically, the nearest great cheesesteak place is owned by an Asian family who speaks next to no English. We order by pointing.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I do - I'll always at a minimum make an attempt at bungling the language of the land before resorting to English.

My view on this is that the world (yes - world) would be better off with a single common language. I'm actually rather impartial to what language that ends up being (my inner lazy bastard says English would be great) - there are many, many factors that would go into choosing it.

However, that's impractical. It's equally impractical to expect a state to operate in more than one language. I understand we have many Spanish speakers in the US; that in itself doesn't bother me. I think it makes good business sense for anyone with a business in an area with many Spanish-speakers to have some bi-lingual people working there. I draw the line, however, at using my tax dollars to make extra signs, manuals, reference materials, schoolbooks, pay for training or anything else on a state level that in effect removes the impetus to learn the language of the land.

America is "The Melting Pot" - or so I learned as a child. It's not the "Chunky-Stew-where-everything-enjoys-the-sauce-but-maintains-it's-own-independence-at-the-same-time Pot"

I think sign language should be taught in schools or at least an alternative to the mandatory French, Spanish, Japanese, etc. classes. Signing is the only true "Universal" language.

what are you talking about...there are different kind sof sign languages, just like there are different kinds of languages.

As for all of the people saying how great a single unified language is....riiiiight. I'm sure everyone agrees, but everyone wants their own language to be it. Today its english. A while back it was French, before that Arabic dominated. Chinese historically had a big influence the far east of Asia. These things switch back and forth.

I prefer no requirements. You don't have to speak english to be an American Citizen, but it sure helps if you want to get around in daily life. And I'm opposed to rules to force citizens to take the test in english because some of those who immigrate are already adults who can barely learn another language. They need to work to save up money and send their own kids to school. Their kids will always be able to speak english there is no worry. To those who can't speak english, using their native language with those who can communicate them helps them make the transition in their lives MUCH easier.
To hold the ideals of America you need not be required to speak any one language, because those ideals can be expressed using all languages.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I do - I'll always at a minimum make an attempt at bungling the language of the land before resorting to English.

My view on this is that the world (yes - world) would be better off with a single common language. I'm actually rather impartial to what language that ends up being (my inner lazy bastard says English would be great) - there are many, many factors that would go into choosing it.

However, that's impractical. It's equally impractical to expect a state to operate in more than one language. I understand we have many Spanish speakers in the US; that in itself doesn't bother me. I think it makes good business sense for anyone with a business in an area with many Spanish-speakers to have some bi-lingual people working there. I draw the line, however, at using my tax dollars to make extra signs, manuals, reference materials, schoolbooks, pay for training or anything else on a state level that in effect removes the impetus to learn the language of the land.

America is "The Melting Pot" - or so I learned as a child. It's not the "Chunky-Stew-where-everything-enjoys-the-sauce-but-maintains-it's-own-independence-at-the-same-time Pot"

I think sign language should be taught in schools or at least an alternative to the mandatory French, Spanish, Japanese, etc. classes. Signing is the only true "Universal" language.

what are you talking about...there are different kind sof sign languages, just like there are different kinds of languages.

As for all of the people saying how great a single unified language is....riiiiight. I'm sure everyone agrees, but everyone wants their own language to be it. Today its english. A while back it was French, before that Arabic dominated. Chinese historically had a big influence the far east of Asia. These things switch back and forth.

I prefer no requirements. You don't have to speak english to be an American Citizen, but it sure helps if you want to get around in daily life. And I'm opposed to rules to force citizens to take the test in english because some of those who immigrate are already adults who can barely learn another language. They need to work to save up money and send their own kids to school. Their kids will always be able to speak english there is no worry. To those who can't speak english, using their native language with those who can communicate them helps them make the transition in their lives MUCH easier.
To hold the ideals of America you need not be required to speak any one language, because those ideals can be expressed using all languages.

We should just all walk around with LCD screens on our shirts connected to images.google.com and get our point across that way. That's a million dollar idea if I've ever seen one

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
There is a lawsuit right now in North Carolina.
The county office used an automated phone answering system, that had 1 for english, 2 for spanish.
They removed that option and when they did the local latin population filed court papers to make them put it back, and the court agreed.
Instead the county removed the answering system, and replaced it with real people.
So when you call you get a real person answering now, not a machine.
Those people don't speak anything but english.
The county also removed all signs in buildings that were bilingual.

The latin population again took them to court.
The courts said the county was just doing what they did to try to get around the court ruling.
The county is staying firm on their decision.

I understand that its hard for non-english speakers to be here.

But english is the main language and by putting too much support for other languages you lessen the need for non-english speakers to learn english.
What happens when other nationalities demand support ? Do we now have to have signs and phone options for greek, russian, chinese ?

thats awesome, got any links to these stories?

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: GenHoth

Originally posted by: alien42

what about tourists?

I want and pointing at the menu is usually sufficient.

If you can read English then you should be able to speak it, doncha ya thing?

no. when i lived in germany i could generally read german better than i could speak it. granted at a very low level but give me a few min to study it i could generally get the written idea. now trying to speak and write it properly is a whole different ball game.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
There is a lawsuit right now in North Carolina.
The county office used an automated phone answering system, that had 1 for english, 2 for spanish.
They removed that option and when they did the local latin population filed court papers to make them put it back, and the court agreed.
Instead the county removed the answering system, and replaced it with real people.
So when you call you get a real person answering now, not a machine.
Those people don't speak anything but english.
The county also removed all signs in buildings that were bilingual.

The latin population again took them to court.
The courts said the county was just doing what they did to try to get around the court ruling.
The county is staying firm on their decision.

I understand that its hard for non-english speakers to be here.

But english is the main language and by putting too much support for other languages you lessen the need for non-english speakers to learn english.
What happens when other nationalities demand support ? Do we now have to have signs and phone options for greek, russian, chinese ?

I shiver at the very thought. Guess who will be paying higher prices for products and services in order to make up the added costs for that support?

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
I shiver at the very thought. Guess who will be paying higher prices for products and services in order to make up the added costs for that support?

Not to mention for the larger packaging to allow for us to print the information in 5 trillion languages. And let's also print it in local dialects. In the Pittsburgh area, the verb "to be" doesn't exist. Something doesn't "need to be cleaned," it "needs cleaned." The word "across" is pronounced, "acrossed." And I hear about a word pronounced, "y'ins," which UrbanDictionary defines as "slang for 'you all.'"

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Xavier434
I shiver at the very thought. Guess who will be paying higher prices for products and services in order to make up the added costs for that support?

Not to mention for the larger packaging to allow for us to print the information in 5 trillion languages. And let's also print it in local dialects. In the Pittsburgh area, the verb "to be" doesn't exist. Something doesn't "need to be cleaned," it "needs cleaned." The word "across" is pronounced, "acrossed." And I hear about a word pronounced, "y'ins," which UrbanDictionary defines as "slang for 'you all.'"

It's just far too complicated and expensive to justify its worth if you ask me. We really are better off keeping it simple especially when one considers that every immigrant knows what they are getting into when they come here. If they don't, then that is there fault for not finding out. I do believe in assisting them with the language barrier issues to a point, but a line most certainly needs to be drawn.

 

[sutahz]

I fully support making english the official language of America but as its not, commerce will drive what languages are spoken where.