This is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH.

[mugs]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I think it is crazy (being polite) that there are so many spanish and other signs out. For anything you go thru, you have to select English as the language. This is America, if they cant learn it, or are too lazy to learn it, then they shouldnt be here. Everytime I go to the ATM, I shouldnt have to pick English or Spanish. They should have to learn English, or get out.

See the thing is, those companies that make the ATMs no doubt sell them to other countries as well. So takes no effort to take the translations and put them in all of the machines to better serve their customers.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I think it is crazy (being polite) that there are so many spanish and other signs out. For anything you go thru, you have to select English as the language. This is America, if they cant learn it, or are too lazy to learn it, then they shouldnt be here. Everytime I go to the ATM, I shouldnt have to pick English or Spanish. They should have to learn English, or get out.

See the thing is, those companies that make the ATMs no doubt sell them to other countries as well. So takes no effort to take the translations and put them in all of the machines to better serve their customers.

lol, Toronto Dominion ATMs up here in igloo nation (DIEBOLD Brand) have location specific third language option on top of English and French. So if the machine is in a place with lots of Chinese people around, Chinese is an option.Other spot it might be Portuguese, etc.

 

[rh71]

Seriously, why do we have to press 1 for English?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I think it is crazy (being polite) that there are so many spanish and other signs out. For anything you go thru, you have to select English as the language. This is America, if they cant learn it, or are too lazy to learn it, then they shouldnt be here. Everytime I go to the ATM, I shouldnt have to pick English or Spanish. They should have to learn English, or get out.

See the thing is, those companies that make the ATMs no doubt sell them to other countries as well. So takes no effort to take the translations and put them in all of the machines to better serve their customers.

Of course, he wouldn't complain if he went to a foreign country and their ATMs offered English as an option.

 

[EGGO]

Was this the same Cheesesteak place that gave a good reason why he said that? It was something like he and his family came to America and learned English on their own. He didn't want people to think he was an arrogant amurrkan; rather, he just wants those to learn the language. It was years ago and I don't remember if it was this one or another.

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: EGGO
Was this the same Cheesesteak place that gave a good reason why he said that? It was something like he and his family came to America and learned English on their own. He didn't want people to think he was an arrogant amurrkan; rather, he just wants those to learn the language. It was years ago and I don't remember if it was this one or another.

Yeah, I don't think it was that nice, but basically.

 

[Woosta]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: rh71
Seriously, why do we have to press 1 for English?

To signal you know English and understand the instruction.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Exactly. This kind of thing is applauded by the narrow-minded twits.

I'm 0 for 2 on keeping my mouth shut today, so let's make it 0 for 3. What is wrong with English being made the only language to be used for business in America? Why should individual companies and government entities have to shoulder the burden because people want to move here without learning English.

No, we have to draw a line in the sand. If people won't even try to learn English, I don't see why we should go out of our way to accomidate them. We're not talking about a disability here. People can learn a new language, the problem is that some don't want to.

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Why should individual companies and government entities have to shoulder the burden because people want to move here without learning English.

As for the companies, if it's profitable for them they will do it. As for the government, the government is here to serve the people. As I already said over 10% of the U.S. population speaks Spanish at home, and that number is steadily increasing. Clearly "the people" is going to include a huge amount of native Spanish speakers, and it is the government's duty to serve them.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Why should individual companies and government entities have to shoulder the burden because people want to move here without learning English.

As for the companies, if it's profitable for them they will do it. As for the government, the government is here to serve the people. As I already said over 10% of the U.S. population speaks Spanish at home, and that number is steadily increasing. Clearly "the people" is going to include a huge amount of native Spanish speakers, and it is the government's duty to serve them.

At how much of a cost to the 90% who don't? Why not spend the money to teach those 10% English?

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Why should individual companies and government entities have to shoulder the burden because people want to move here without learning English.

As for the companies, if it's profitable for them they will do it. As for the government, the government is here to serve the people. As I already said over 10% of the U.S. population speaks Spanish at home, and that number is steadily increasing. Clearly "the people" is going to include a huge amount of native Spanish speakers, and it is the government's duty to serve them.

At how much of a cost to the 90% who don't? Why not spend the money to teach those 10% English?

You either missed the word "increasing" or simply don't know what it means. Either way it's sad that so many people refuse to read the writing on the wall.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael
You either missed the word "increasing" or simply don't know what it means. Either way it's sad that so many people refuse to read the writing on the wall.

No, I get it: Hispanic birthrates are higher in America than everyone else and the influx of illegal immigrants isn't slowing down. Now is the time to act, not when the English-speaking portion of the country is a minority. Proper border enforcement and increased ESL programs can stem the tide.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Which is why I'm hoping to become trilingual or better in college.

As for the companies, if it's profitable for them they will do it. As for the government, the government is here to serve the people. As I already said over 10% of the U.S. population speaks Spanish at home, and that number is steadily increasing. Clearly "the people" is going to include a huge amount of native Spanish speakers, and it is the government's duty to serve them.

10% of the U.S. population aren't U.S. citizens. Only the children of the illegals are U.S. citizens. The rest of them are still illegal and should either learn the language and apply for citizenship or leave.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

Exactly. This kind of thing is applauded by the narrow-minded twits.

Pretty much they come to America in order to get away from their country because of how horrible it is, but they feel as if we are some how forcing our culture on them as they struggle to try and preserve it which sometimes leads to resentment. I can understand wanting to preserve your own culture, but I do not understand wanting to live amongst another culture while rejecting it at the same time. You can't have your cake and eat it too when it comes to that sort of thing and then expect life to be smooth sailing.

And if the culture in your country sucks so bad that you flee to another, then shouldn't you NOT bring the broken f@cking culture with you? Do you want to turn your new country into a sh@thole as well? If you want to preserve the substandard way of life of your original country, then the easiest way to do that is to STAY THERE.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Make sure you follow your own rules if you travel overseas.

I always make an effort to speak the language when I travel overseas. Don't most people? Isn't that exactly why some people buy those phrase books in different languages?

I briefly tried speaking the native language when I visited Spain, France and Italy. Then I realized they all spoke English.

Yep, I had the same experience at most places.

I had the same experience when I went to Britain.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Why should individual companies and government entities have to shoulder the burden because people want to move here without learning English.

As for the government, the government is here to serve the people.

The government is here to serve the citizens of this country, not just anyone else who stumbles across the border looking for hand-outs but is not willing to contribute anything in return. So how about this: the US government takes care of ITS people, not "the people", and you can foot the bill for everyone else since you're obviously extremely charitable with other people's money and resources.

Also, since you're clearly an expert on the government's "duty", could you please tell me what the f@ck is the duty of the government of the country from which they came?

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Why should individual companies and government entities have to shoulder the burden because people want to move here without learning English.

As for the government, the government is here to serve the people.

The government is here to serve the citizens of this country, not just anyone else who stumbles across the border looking for hand-outs but is not willing to contribute anything in return. So how about this: the US government takes care of ITS people, not "the people", and you can foot the bill for everyone else since you're obviously extremely charitable with other people's money and resources.

Also, since you're clearly an expert on the government's "duty", could you please tell me what the f@ck is the duty of the government of the country from which they came?

You're here turning it into an emotional issue, but it really isn't. It's purely a practical one. I don't speak Spanish, and I'm not Hispanic. My grandmother came from Sweden and learned English, my grandfather and his family came from Germany and learned English. Likewise my other grandmother and grandfather had ancestors who came from Italy and Russia and learned English. The difference is that the population level of those minority groups are not high enough and weren't high enough at the time to warrant the level of attention that the U.S. government and U.S. corporations are giving to Spanish speaking immigrants.

It seems that people feel threatened because something they hold very dear is being threatened. While that is understandable it is not in and of itself an argument to take action. Not all things being threatened need to be saved. Besides the fact that English has become a de facto lingua franca for the world and is not likely going anywhere, ebb and flow is also just the nature of language. People like you are fighting a hopeless battle.