busmaster11
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Originally posted by: bizmark
Originally posted by: skyking
The problem we face is a society of spineless baby boomers (Non Partisan!), who fear everything, and wish to legislate "SAFETY from all possible harm". Something terrible happens, and there is a cry and hue to try to prevent it from happening again.
This attitude drives the government to seek methods to wrap a protective cocoon around our people, without regard to rights and dignity.
Freedom is not free. There was a heck of a price paid for it along the way, and it is an ongoing lease. It will never be paid up.
Until our society gets a backbone, and accepts that things like Sept. 11 are not only possible, but likely, and don't amount to a blip on the scoreboard of suffering by americans throughout our history, we will be running and cowering, all too happy to give up our freedoms.
Once we give up a freedom, for any excuse, it does not return in full. There are always clever "caveats" that are thought to be acceptable "good ideas" , in light of the prior state of affairs.
You just got a 10. Can I excerpt that for my sig?
Thank you both for trivializing the largest attack on US soil on one occasion ever. I am so sick of all this right wing libertarian rhetoric talking about the price of freedom when you yourself isn't willing to sacrifice anything. We're trying to fight a war to defend this country, everyone's called upon to make sacrifices and all you can do is b!tch about getting searched at the airport and how thats violating your rights and freedoms.
All things considered we have the most freedom of any country in the world and the best kind - we're prosperous enough to be able to do something with it; and some of you are crying that we're on a slippery slope toward a police state.
Freedom is a precious thing and I appreciate mine very much, but in the grand context of things, and in any historical context, we have nothing to complain about in terms of losing freedoms. The time period between the end of the cold war till prior to 9/11 may have been the greatest and safest peacetime we've ever had in memory, and I still haven't heard from Amused as to why he didn't feel safe, despite allegedly relinquishing all his freedoms for it.