This is Microsoft's first Anti-Chromebook device

[Bateluer]

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/18/6033683/hp-stream-14-leak-chromebook-killer

The Stream 14 has an AMD processor, 1366 x 768 pixel display, 2GB of RAM, 32 or 64GB of internal storage, and a slot for an SD card. If you ignore the Windows stickers that are surely going to be located on the palm rests of the Stream 14, you'd be hard-pressed to tell it apart from HP's Chromebook 14, a popular 14-inch Chromebook released late last year.

199, and you get 100GBs of OneDrive storage for 2 years.

I'm curious which AMD chip powers this thing because the A6 1450 in my V5 122P was an absolute dog in Windows. Probably Beema or Mullins? Wonder why they didn't go with Bay Trail Atom? Too expensive?

Still, for 200 dollars, I think you'd probably be better off with a comparable Chromebook. It'll certainly be a more pleasurable experience.

 

[Sattern]

I mean I don't care much for Chromebooks or cheap items, but if I want to casually browse the web i'd rather do it on a Tablet, i'm not too sure how long those cheap laptops would last, but i'd much rather get what I pay for by buying a more expensive model.

I'm glad to see Microsoft trying to compete with another giant yet again .

This isn't there first attempt to reinvent what is already there.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I don't get what's so special about this particular one. There are already $230 and $200 Win 8.1 laptops out there.

 

[tsupersonic]

I would rather buy a cheap full sized Windows laptop for $200-300 or a Chromebook, or better yet a tablet. I've used AMD CPU's in laptops, and not a fan at all. Generally you get terrible battery life, runs hot, and not as powerful as Intel counterparts.

 

[Remobz]

I would rather buy a cheap full sized Windows laptop for $200-300 or a Chromebook, or better yet a tablet. I've used AMD CPU's in laptops, and not a fan at all. Generally you get terrible battery life, runs hot, and not as powerful as Intel counterparts.

I agree. I presently own a HP Pavilion G4 with AMD A6 proc and it has like 2 1/2 hours battery life and runs hot.

I bought it due to my budget ($400) and it more or less gets the job done but NEVER again. Intel all the way next time.

 

[ninaholic37]

According to here it will come with Mullins AMD A4 Micro-6400T:

The notebook features a 14 inch, 1366 x 768 pixel display, an AMD A4 Micro-6400T “Mullins” processor which is a 4.5W quad-core processor with Radeon R3 graphics, 2GB of RAM, and either 32GB or 64GB of eMMC solid state storage.

http://liliputing.com/2014/08/hp-stream-14-inch-notebook-coming-soon-199.html

 

[artivix]

There is demo from Europe Lenovo on Youtube showing G50-45 with AMD A6-6310 running Battlefield 4 1366 x 768 medium nice smooth 30fps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIf2Vk02COo

AMD Mullins small core micro-6700t receive almost all tops scores in reviews from Anandtech and other review sites too.

 

[Phynaz]

Microsoft's anti-Chromebook device? That's an HP, not a Microsoft laptop. And you realize HP makes Chromebooks too, right?

 

[Roland00Address]

Intel baytrail win 8.1, 11.6", HDMI, for $179
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-as...9275163830&skuId=7498239&st=7498239&cp=1&lp=1

 

[USER8000]

Intel baytrail win 8.1, 11.6", HDMI, for $179
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-asp...8239&cp=1&lp=1

It has a N2830 dual core.

 

[Red Storm]

I would rather get a Chromebook. Cheap Windows machines are not a joy to use.

 

[ultimatebob]

Intel baytrail win 8.1, 11.6", HDMI, for $179
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-asp...8239&cp=1&lp=1

An 11" screen makes it more like a netbook than a laptop, though.

 

[Remobz]

I would rather get a Chromebook. Cheap Windows machines are not a joy to use.

I want to get my GF something small like an iPad mini 2. It is out of my budget though

I am wondering if I should go with a Nexus 7 or some cheap windows machine?

 

[Roland00Address]

It has a N2830 dual core.

To my understanding it is passively cooled. Has the same single theoretical single threaded performance as the z3770. In fact in reality it will probably have a higher single thread performance and dual thread performance due to a larger tdp and thus it can stay at those higher turbo ranges for larger.

For quad threaded tasks, yes the z3770 will probably be faster. For quad threaded tasks it will probably be similar in performance to the z3740 which maxes out at 1.83 ghz.

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The hp referenced uses a AMD A4 Micro-6400T. This is a quad core but it runs at 1 ghz and can turbo up to 1.6 but within a 4.5w tdp so it probably can't hit 1.6 on all 4 cores. It will probably perform similarly to the dual core baytrail I linked to.

An 11" screen makes it more like a netbook than a laptop, though.

I agree it is more of a netbook than a "laptop" that said I would consider chromebooks to be netbooks as well.

 

[Cerb]

Runs full Windows? That's not anti-Chromebook. It should be running RT, if they want to try that. The limited OS is a feature, for the non-techies, not a hindrance. There's no shortage of cheap enough Windows notebooks, already.

 

[Bateluer]

The hp referenced uses a AMD A4 Micro-6400T. This is a quad core but it runs at 1 ghz and can turbo up to 1.6 but within a 4.5w tdp so it probably can't hit 1.6 on all 4 cores. It will probably perform similarly to the dual core baytrail I linked to.

On the CPU side, I would expect them both to offer similar performance, at least, until you throw 4 threads on it; then the I would expect the A4 to shine. But on the GPU side, I don't think its as clear cut. I think the Radeon R3 in the A4 might have an edge.

 

[raghu78]

Mullins A4-Micro 6400T has a much more robust turbo than the earlier Temash A6-1450. So this chip will turbo to 1.6 Ghz for single threaded / dual threaded workloads. For 3-4 threads this chip will most likely run at 1.2 Ghz. But the difference is with 4 threads this laptop will be more responsive than Baytrail Celeron models. This chip should perform on par with Z3745 for CPU perf and thrash the Baytrail on GPU performance. I hope there is atleast an option to upgrade to AMD Mullins A10-Micro 6700T which has a 1.2 Ghz base / 2.2 Ghz turbo and is faster than the Z3770 across the board.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7974/...tecture-a10-micro-6700t-performance-preview/3

http://www.techspot.com/article/810-amd-beema-and-mullins-preview/page3.html

http://techreport.com/review/26377/a-first-look-at-amd-mullins-mobile-apu/3

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-tablet-processor,3813-5.html

btw here is the HP Stream 14 manual

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04400176.pdf

If HP can sell the A10-Micro 6700T with 64 GB storage for USD 250 this would be a killer low cost Windows laptop which can be used for basic productivity like MS Office, web browsing and even gaming at 800x600 resolution at low-med settings on titles like Bioshock Infinite, Tombraider, Grid 2, Dirt Showdown. imo this notebook is a much better buy than a Chromebook.

 

[pw257008]

Based on benchmarks, Puma cores have about 1.4-1.5x the performance per clock vs. Bay Trail. At 1.6Ghz in single or dual thread boost, the A4 would just about match the N2830 at its 2.4 turbo. How long that turbo can be sustained, however, is an open question. I'd love to see benchmark numbers for this laptop. And I'd love to see it in a 10.1 inch form factor, as the E1 Micro in the other HP is a step too low for my liking (or in this case, thinking in terms of a replacement netbook for my mom's old single core HT Atom). The T100 is tempting, but also pricier, and if CT comes out early next year (maybe along with W9), it might be tempting to wait for that.

 

[ninaholic37]

And I'd love to see it in a 10.1 inch form factor, as the E1 Micro in the other HP is a step too low for my liking (or in this case, thinking in terms of a replacement netbook for my mom's old single core HT Atom). The T100 is tempting, but also pricier, and if CT comes out early next year (maybe along with W9), it might be tempting to wait for that.

I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I am thinking of waiting until Windows 9/Threshold gets ironed out before getting another netbook though, or just finding one with Chrome OS/no OS and putting Linux on it instead (if a good deal in this form factor arrives).

 

[s44]

I don't get what's so special about this particular one. There are already $230 and $200 Win 8.1 laptops out there.

Mechanical drives are the devil.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Mechanical drives are the devil.

And eMMC is slow too. Your point?

 

[s44]

And eMMC is slow too. Your point?

Not even close to comparable.

But keep wondering why Microsoft's lunch continues to be eaten...

 

[Chipfiref]

*Sigh*

We live in a world where massive corporations can launch computer product lines to show what they can do, not to have a successful product line. And not just MS of course.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Not even close to comparable.

Your right. A modern 5400 RPM laptop drive blows away eMMC in sequential transfers. eMMC is no SATA6G SSD, either, with respect to seek times.

 

[Emulex]

the ole netbook has cometh back again! craptastic!