blackangst1
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lol ok manThey lied. Because they were ashamed to be losers. And they are still lying to this day. Even though they think they are winners.
lol ok manThey lied. Because they were ashamed to be losers. And they are still lying to this day. Even though they think they are winners.
And one of those basic rights is due process of law. We've always interpreted that to mean all persons under US jurisdiction including those awaiting judgement in immigration court. Trump would deny them that & it's just plain wrong & un-American.
The GOP doesn't intend any honest solutions at all because it's an issue that makes people crazy enough to vote for trickle down, again & again. It's a vote harvesting machine they know how to run.
And it was reversed. So whats your problem? Unhappy because we dont have open borders?
I dont remember you complaining when the deporter in chief was in charge....
And... duh-vert!
Isn't it grand that we have a President who would cast aside the Constitution & 200 years of jurisprudence to deal with a contrived crisis of his own making?
Funny because thats what the right said when Obama was in office LOL
Must be miserable to be you...
edit: And good job not even acknowledging my post is 100% correct.
No, I'm a cancer survivor so life is pretty damn good thanks.
And your post completely missed the point (deliberately so I suspect)
btw, your post is not "100% correct" as the US is a representative democracy which takes the form of a democratic republic (in very rough terms).
This guy knows more about it than both of us put together so I'll let him explain it to you
https://reason.com/volokh/2018/01/17/the-united-states-is-both-a-republic-and
Congrats (sincerely) on beating C...thats awesome
My post IS 100% correct. We are not a democracy.
And I didnt miss any point.
Nope, its still wrong. We practice a form of democracy, a representational republic where we directly vote for people to represent us.
Its a shame that you aren't are of this.
lol red herring!
“We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came,”[/quote}
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Hardly. Your remarks about open borders & the deporter in chief def were however.
Trump said this, linked in the OP-
Due process & 200 years of jurisprudence are exactly what he suggests we should discard
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=deporter+in+chiefReally? I didnt come up with that name http://lmgtfy.com/?q=deporter+in+chief
You are very mistaken....
Um...thats what I said ....
Maybe you meant we aren't a direct democracy.
Hardly. Your remarks about open borders & the deporter in chief def were however.
Trump said this, linked in the OP-
Due process & 200 years of jurisprudence are exactly what he suggests we should discard
“All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country.
The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.
That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens.
In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace...
We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.”
Real reform means establishing a responsible pathway to earned citizenship -- a path that includes passing a background check, paying taxes and a meaningful penalty, learning English, and going to the back of the line behind the folks trying to come here legally.
You do know the Democrats AND the GOP passed a border wall bill in 2006, right? Clinton voted for it, Obama voted for it, Schumer voted for it. https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061026-1.html
Oh and lets not forget what Clinton said in his 1995 SOTU address
Oh and then there's Obama, who, in his 2013 SOTU address said this:
I guess Obama was racist against brown people too since he thought they should learn English?
So explain why the left is so against Trump being anti-illegal entry when they used to have the same stance? Would you like quotes from more high ranking Democrats?
The obvious answer is...because its Trump. Sure does make you look foolish.
I'm sure you'd very much like it being because of anti trump sentiment but that's because that's the only position you can argue from.
However the reality is that most people are against trumps immigration policies because they are stupid, not well thought out, and extremely inefficient. His latest move to separate families was a perfect illustration of this. The wall would be example number 2.
Well, the family separation policy was a bad one. Thankfully he changed it. As far as the wall goes, well...people apparently supported a wall 10 years ago. So much so The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed by the Senate with bipartisan support.
Oh well that totally changes everything! /s
I hate stupid people.
Sure does! If you watch Clintons remarks in 1995 and Obama's remarks in 2013 you'd think Trump wrote it! Im happy the truth has set you free
I've been free for a very long time now, you should join me.
I wonder what the left's reaction would be if Trump said the same thing Obama did: they need to learn English
/head explodes
Its not about whataboutism its about its sooo funny to see the left losing their minds over Trumps stance on illegal immigration when both sides and previous presidents have done and said similar things for over 20 years. I mean really. Why now? lol I supported it before I was against it? Guess so.They should learn English and Americans should learn to speak other languages as well. I guess you missed that part of Obama's thinking.
I'm not sure what point you think you are making other than to show off your whataboutism game.
Carry on bubble boy.
You do know the Democrats AND the GOP passed a border wall bill in 2006, right? Clinton voted for it, Obama voted for it, Schumer voted for it. https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061026-1.html
Oh and lets not forget what Clinton said in his 1995 SOTU address
Oh and then there's Obama, who, in his 2013 SOTU address said this:
I guess Obama was racist against brown people too since he thought they should learn English?
So explain why the left is so against Trump being anti-illegal entry when they used to have the same stance? Would you like quotes from more high ranking Democrats?
The obvious answer is...because its Trump. Sure does make you look foolish.
Its not about whataboutism its about its sooo funny to see the left losing their minds over Trumps stance on illegal immigration when both sides and previous presidents have done and said similar things for over 20 years. I mean really. Why now? lol I supported it before I was against it? Guess so.
More like it's about you're making things up and playing obtuse just to troll. Must be a boring day for you.Its not about whataboutism its about its sooo funny to see the left losing their minds over Trumps stance on illegal immigration when both sides and previous presidents have done and said similar things for over 20 years. I mean really. Why now? lol I supported it before I was against it? Guess so.