hey if ne of u guys try are goin to try the cyber rebates thing, dont. It's way too much of a hassle, my dad tried them a couple years back, and it took them like 4 months to get the rebates, and the prices are so jacked up when u buy it. When he actually got the item, it was broken, he told the people it was broken and wanted his money back, they said only if he sent back the item, so he agreed. The recredited him but he never sent the item back, woulda been a pretty good deal if the item worked, eh?