This is what we deal with in S. Florida with illegals

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Lol, chances are a guy that has to pay for something like a new FJ Cruiser with cash is living in one.



Erm... You have little room to talk, Alky.


When did you run that guy over in the OP? I don't recall reading about that, yet. I'm curious why your ins co would pay out on an obvious setup?
 

Macamus Prime

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Ask your white trash country men to stop hiring illegals - then they will stop entering the US looking for work.
 

JulesMaximus

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/t...i-manslaughter-after-fiery-crash-2053139.html



They blantantly break the law while already breaking the law thinking they are beyond the rules. There is a whole house of these types right down the street with every license plate already expired on the same month 2 years ago.

These same people blow through the stop signs in the neighborhood and approach 55-60mph driving down our 15mph roads. I was burying cats and racoons alot a few years ago but now I stepped up my food efforts and they mostly stick to the wooded area and school behind my property.

I was set up a couple years ago to hit a dude that is still driving to this day without a license or insurance. The courts have him listed as indigent even and he skips is $20 payment plan.

He tried to sue me for $1,000,000. Then $300,000...then my insurance company threw him a check for $10k and he was gone.

All of them?

And I really hope you aren't feeding raccoons. Those things can be downright dangerous and a real nuisance.
 

rh71

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Ask your white trash country men to stop hiring illegals - then they will stop entering the US looking for work.

I work at home so I hear landscapers left, right, front and back all damn day during the summer & fall. A lot are elderly who can't do their own lawn. Would non-illegals work for the prices they are paid? There-in lies the problem.

When we did this house, the masonry guy hired 2 illegals to help him lay the brick. It's not a skill job other than being told what to do - would non-illegals settle for little pay so the mason can keep prices down for his customers? Hell, I didn't even know he was going to do that.
 
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Macamus Prime

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I work at home so I hear landscapers left, right, front and back all damn day during the summer & fall. A lot are elderly who can't do their own lawn. Would non-illegals work for the prices they are paid? There-in lies the problem.

When we did this house, the masonry guy hired 2 illegals to help him lay the brick. It's not a skill job other than being told what to do - would non-illegals settle for little pay so the mason can keep prices down for his customers? Hell, I didn't even know he was going to do that.

Then there is no need to scream and yell about illegals.

Or, the racists could just face reality; not all illegals are ramming people with cars. Or rather, no more than your regular human being. Remember this piece of shit? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,536742,00.html

Should this incident lead to us throwing out all American citizen moms? Of course not.

And, back on topic; by all means, go after those breaking the law. But, realize where the source and cause is - which is, American citizens want cheap labor in the USA. You can't have cheap labor and NOT expect to draw people willing to accept low wages (illegals).

Illegals are like America's drug habit. Americans love to get fucked up on coke, weed and all sorts of illegal drugs, but then scream and yell about the violence surrounding the selling of illegal drugs.

Well, what do you want? You have invited this element into your society and life. Don't bitch and moan about how your government isn't doing enough to protect you from a harmful lifestyle.
 

PimpJuice

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Fuck illegals.....there are tons of people who work very hard to come here legally and these ass wipes just walk across the border and act like they own the place. Seal the borders and shoot anyone that tries to get in illegally.
 

alent1234

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/t...i-manslaughter-after-fiery-crash-2053139.html



They blantantly break the law while already breaking the law thinking they are beyond the rules. There is a whole house of these types right down the street with every license plate already expired on the same month 2 years ago.

These same people blow through the stop signs in the neighborhood and approach 55-60mph driving down our 15mph roads. I was burying cats and racoons alot a few years ago but now I stepped up my food efforts and they mostly stick to the wooded area and school behind my property.

I was set up a couple years ago to hit a dude that is still driving to this day without a license or insurance. The courts have him listed as indigent even and he skips is $20 payment plan.

He tried to sue me for $1,000,000. Then $300,000...then my insurance company threw him a check for $10k and he was gone.

i grew up in the 80's and back then all the white people were drinking and driving all the time. until MADD lobbied for laws against it.

and i see legal residents run stop signs and red lights all the time as well. in fact in NYC the people who drive for a living are the worst offenders
 

alkemyst

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i grew up in the 80's and back then all the white people were drinking and driving all the time. until MADD lobbied for laws against it.

and i see legal residents run stop signs and red lights all the time as well. in fact in NYC the people who drive for a living are the worst offenders

In reality MADD had broken away from wanting to save lives and wanting to promote it's lobby.

Even it's founder is against what they have become. The original group was never about stopping adults from having a few drinks and driving home...they were about those that get 'drunk'.

It's an incredible revenue generator at about $5k a pop.
 

bfdd

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California deals with the same shit daily.

The illegals come here, ignore our laws...break them with impunity, then run back to Mexico.

Everything from car accidents with no insurance to murder...

We have a strong Mexican gang presence here...many of whom are illegal immigrants.

this is so true. i've actually met and still know some people like that, there's quite a bit more of them than people like to admit.

Macamus Prime, do away with minimum wage and getting rid of social services. People will take those jobs for the same pay as illegals. BY THE FUCKING WAY, it's not like these guys get paid pennies on the fucking dollar. I've worked along side and got the SAME PAY cash under the table as illegals. I'm not above it, guess what? I've never made less than 10 bucks an hour and neither has any single illegal alien I have worked along side. Hell most now a days are asking for 12-15 because they have the skill and experience to handle the job whereas some silly whiteboy or brother doesn't have jack shit experience and is going around asking for 15-20.
 
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PieIsAwesome

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RAAAAAA GORAMN ILLEGAL!!! KILL'EM!!

Oh wait, it doesn't say anywhere in the article that this dude was an illegal.
 

alent1234

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In reality MADD had broken away from wanting to save lives and wanting to promote it's lobby.

Even it's founder is against what they have become. The original group was never about stopping adults from having a few drinks and driving home...they were about those that get 'drunk'.

It's an incredible revenue generator at about $5k a pop.

true now but back then it was a bigger problem than today and people would get a traffic citation or a few weeks in jail for driving drunk and killing someone
 

alkemyst

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Erm... You have little room to talk, Alky.


When did you run that guy over in the OP? I don't recall reading about that, yet. I'm curious why your ins co would pay out on an obvious setup?

It was two years ago and mentioned here.

Insurance settles because it's cheaper...it's a racket down here.
 

alkemyst

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true now but back then it was a bigger problem than today and people would get a traffic citation or a few weeks in jail for driving drunk and killing someone

MADD did not change vehicular homicide/manslaughter laws though.
 

DrPizza

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FL insurance co's are required to do the same, I let my insurance lapse for a week once ( I forgot the renewal date) and got a letter from the DMV stating that if I don't call them or use their website to give them my ins. info my license will be suspended. Problem is people will plunk down their initial payment to get the ins but not make any further payments then just drive with a suspended license while sometimes stealing the decal off another plate to avoid getting pulled over.

LOL, what a friendly state who doesn't really mind too horribly if you let your insurance lapse. In NY, first time, even if it's for 24 hours, you have to pay a fine. That's NY being nice. 2nd time, they're not nice. Your registration is revoked. Turn in your plates, period. Pay fine, and have to wait x-number of days before being able to re-register your vehicle. And, the longer it takes you to take those plates to the DMV, the longer you go without plates.

It was two years ago and mentioned here.

Insurance settles because it's cheaper...it's a racket down here.

Which, I think is foolish on the part of the insurance companies. It's cheaper on an individual case basis; the problem is (and this is just my speculation), people see others getting away with it, realize that the insurance company isn't going to fight them, and just abuse it to get the free money. I feel that not fighting the little cases has resulted in an increase in the number of little cases. 10k here, 10k there, what's the big deal? They just raise everyone's insurance rates accordingly and still make a nice profit.
 

bobdole369

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FL insurance co's are required to do the same, I let my insurance lapse for a week once ( I forgot the renewal date) and got a letter from the DMV stating that if I don't call them or use their website to give them my ins. info my license will be suspended.

The real problem is that a system exists like this in FL - but it isn't enforced very well. It is up to the insurer to report lapses, and the smaller guys (the cheaper ones, scummier yes, but less expensive) are far less likely to report, as this would cut into their bottom line. If an lapsed client has to pay to have the license reinstated they are less likely to actually do it, as opposed to simply paying either a reinstatement fee or a new deposit. (That is vs. a new deposit and a reinstatement fee). The state is fairly lax about it thus there is no real impetus to actually enforce the law.

When there is a jingle on the radio about it, and it goes something like:

(rap) "When you get into an accident, call us we gon represent. Get yo money, get yo money, get yo money fo yo pain. Get you money, get yo money, get yo ten thousand dollars."

Something is wrong. People see car accidents as paychecks and our horrificly high premiums are the result. (unfortunately the lawyers you call at 1-800-fo-yo-pain just take the $10k and leave you with nothing)

What should really happen, is that if there is an ununsured involved in an accident, that motorist (and any passengers) wouldn't be able to sue anybody. Probably unfair to the uninsureds passengers, but whatever - it'll make sure everyone on the road is covered.
 

thebestMAX

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I live one block from Military Trail. Hope to move out of Palm Beach County soon.

South Floriduh is a shithole, money or not.
 

alkemyst

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Which, I think is foolish on the part of the insurance companies. It's cheaper on an individual case basis; the problem is (and this is just my speculation), people see others getting away with it, realize that the insurance company isn't going to fight them, and just abuse it to get the free money. I feel that not fighting the little cases has resulted in an increase in the number of little cases. 10k here, 10k there, what's the big deal? They just raise everyone's insurance rates accordingly and still make a nice profit.

Well these people have to be represented by an attorney to begin even negotiating. Those attorney's send these people to either a doctor (or usually chiropractor) that is a 'partner' of the firm. The people I was involved with never saw a physician yet even their 15 year old daughter saw a chiropractor 1 and sometimes twice a day at the due of $250 per visit. The costs within two weeks before they filed suit was in the $60k range (of course all on paper to the firm). Paying out $10k is chump change to several people vs even having this go to court for one. In the end the 'clients' are those that lose.

I am sure they ended up with nothing except 'free treatment'.

The insurance companies have fought with a solution to this, too many people in power profiting heavily from this abuse to get rid of it.

The worst thing here is when you get in an accident in remote locations, their are those that quickly call a ton of 'friends' who all claim to have been in the vehicle and of course all have whiplash/back issues.

It's your word vs them.
 

BUTCH1

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LOL, what a friendly state who doesn't really mind too horribly if you let your insurance lapse. In NY, first time, even if it's for 24 hours, you have to pay a fine. That's NY being nice. 2nd time, they're not nice. Your registration is revoked. Turn in your plates, period. Pay fine, and have to wait x-number of days before being able to re-register your vehicle. And, the longer it takes you to take those plates to the DMV, the longer you go without plates.



Which, I think is foolish on the part of the insurance companies. It's cheaper on an individual case basis; the problem is (and this is just my speculation), people see others getting away with it, realize that the insurance company isn't going to fight them, and just abuse it to get the free money. I feel that not fighting the little cases has resulted in an increase in the number of little cases. 10k here, 10k there, what's the big deal? They just raise everyone's insurance rates accordingly and still make a nice profit.

Let me explain a little more, these people would not care if it was suspended the next day, they'll just keep driving, it's the way it is around here, bring in your plate? that's a LOL for FL, few would do it, just keep stealing the decals off others plates and keep driving!..
 

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Let me explain a little more, these people would not care if it was suspended the next day, they'll just keep driving, it's the way it is around here, bring in your plate? that's a LOL for FL, few would do it, just keep stealing the decals off others plates and keep driving!..
That's something I could never figure out - why the hell do you guys put them on your license plate where they can be peeled off by someone. Ours go on the inside of the windshield. Attempting to peel them off destroys them. And, it's not a matter of stealing just decals - you'd need the entire plate. (In NY, two plates.) If you don't turn in the plates, before long, your license is suspended. You're looking at *thousands* of dollars in fines. There are reasons why some states have estimated less than 5% of cars on the road without insurance while other states have 20% or more. And, don't the plates follow the car in Florida? i.e. In NY, when a vehicle is sold, it is NOT sold with the previous license plates. If you sell the car, you take the plates off. There's no way in the world that you're getting a big 3" square special colored inspection sticker for your windshield, or the even bigger registration sticker for your windshield color coded with great big numbers of the month it expires. People who let those things expire are a cash cow for the state; then again, that's why WE don't have those problems and you guys DO.
 
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alkemyst

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The problem at least with S. Florida is they are too tolerant of those getting the 'destitute' status. The guy in my case didn't have a valid license at the time of the accident, was already on a payment plan from a previous 'no valid license ticket', he continued to be stopped 2 more times over the next year.

The court let him off by just paying the original fine at $15 a month or something stupid.
 

Quakester

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Only one way to stop the madness:

Incarcerate all the sympathy wielding liberals so there's nobody to protect the illegals.

Nuff said.
 
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