This is why AMD needs a new PR scheme

[sandorski]

If anyone needs a new PR scheme it's Intel. AMDs lowest PR is 15xx(ish), while Intel's highest is 8xx. 1500>800, OMG Intel sux!!

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: sandorski
If anyone needs a new PR scheme it's Intel. AMDs lowest PR is 15xx(ish), while Intel's highest is 8xx. 1500>800, OMG Intel sux!!

Yeah the Intel chips have finally moved away from Ghz rating, and gone with the 8xx names etc + what ever tehy use in the future, where as AMD still uses the Intel equivilent rating i.e. 3200+ = 3.2 Ghz P4 .. i think AMD should change the names of their chips,

hmm but what could they be changed to???

 

[Lonyo]

THIS THREAD IS STUPID, SO ARE HALF OF THE POSTERS

Sorry, had to rant.
All you idiots who can't see the value of a Pentium D system are just that, idiots.
"Oh My God, Intel sucks, AMD is waaaaaay better even though it costs more it's worth it, it's only like $0.27 a day"
Hey dumbass, I don't have the extra $200 to blow on an AMD solution, I want my computer NOW.

Oh, and for all the fanboys, INTEL ISN'T THAT MUCH WORSE.
See here
Intel Pentium D OUTPERFORMS the AMD systems.
Although that's the high end of Intel, I would guess the 2.8 would be equal to the AMD system, and CHEAPER, that's right, Intel CHEAPER than AMD. Better value for money in these everyday users tasks.

our multitasking scenarios were a mixed bag of results between AMD and Intel. The multitasking gaming tests were obviously very strongly in favor of AMD, but the general usage tests were more mixed between AMD and Intel. In many cases, Intel's Pentium D actually pulled ahead in terms of performance.

Intel is CHEAPER and about equal/sometimes ahead in general use multi-tasking. Not for the gamer, but Intel have never been good for gaming, and games aren't multi-threaded yet in the main anyway, so single core is fine for games.
But generally Intel isn't far off AMD and it's cheaper.



Now, lets forget ALL of that, and get back to th real point of this thread: AMD needing better marketing.

Yes, they do. Many people don't really have a clue AMD even exists, they need gaudy adverts, they need presence. They need to sponser a football team or a racing team with major money.
They have small adverts on the Ferrari F1 cars, but in general they have no brand in the mainstream. They need to get their name out there if they really want to take 33% marketshare by 2008.
I believe Intel's move away from Netburst will also be a big boom for AMD, as if they use the Pentium M architecture, clock speeds will hurt, and they won't be able to rely on numbers. AMD needs a brand name so they can fight the next gen of Intel processors.

 

[carlosd]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
THIS THREAD IS STUPID, SO ARE HALF OF THE POSTERS

Sorry, had to rant.
All you idiots who can't see the value of a Pentium D system are just that, idiots.
"Oh My God, Intel sucks, AMD is waaaaaay better even though it costs more it's worth it, it's only like $0.27 a day"
Hey dumbass, I don't have the extra $200 to blow on an AMD solution, I want my computer NOW.

Oh, and for all the fanboys, INTEL ISN'T THAT MUCH WORSE.
See here
Intel Pentium D OUTPERFORMS the AMD systems.

Oh yes!! the Pentium D 840 outperforms A64 X2 4200+ in 1% of the test by a ridiculous margin and costs about the same, What a price /performance ratio!! . Any X2 crush, yes! crush the 820, 840 and 840EE in almost every test. For this among other reasons the X2 4200+ costs 200 more than the slower and much hotter 820, this is fair or not?

As far as I concern I will spend near $540 in the 4400+ and nothing else. sorry for you for not having a 939 mobo already! . So at least people having 939 boards will be happy of spending 50-60 more dollars than you who will buy a pentium D, and getting a faster and much cooler system.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: carlosd

Originally posted by: Lonyo
THIS THREAD IS STUPID, SO ARE HALF OF THE POSTERS

Sorry, had to rant.
All you idiots who can't see the value of a Pentium D system are just that, idiots.
"Oh My God, Intel sucks, AMD is waaaaaay better even though it costs more it's worth it, it's only like $0.27 a day"
Hey dumbass, I don't have the extra $200 to blow on an AMD solution, I want my computer NOW.

Oh, and for all the fanboys, INTEL ISN'T THAT MUCH WORSE.
See here
Intel Pentium D OUTPERFORMS the AMD systems.

Oh yes!! the Pentium D 840 outperforms A64 X2 4200+ in 1% of the test by a ridiculous margin and costs about the same, What a price /performance ratio!! . Any X2 crush, yes! crush the 820, 840 and 840EE in almost every test. For this among other reasons the X2 4200+ costs 200 more than the slower and much hotter 820, this is fair or not?

As far as I concern I will spend near $540 in the 4400+ and nothing else. sorry for you for not having a 939 mobo already! . So at least people having 939 boards will be happy of spending 50-60 more dollars than you who will buy a pentium D, and getting a faster and much cooler system.

Whatever floats that boat of yours Carlos. Enjoy. :beer:

 

[neonerd]

first off, back up for a second. Prices are high for a specific reason. If AMD prices their dual cores around the same price as single cores, then who will buy single core? There is simply not enough chips in distribution, for everybody to start buying dual core. AMD wants dual core to get a start this year, however it will not start becoming main stream until next year. There are not enough dual core cpu's in production, and AMD also doesn't want the single cores to die out. This keeps people buying single cores for now, and when they are ready, they'll be able to upgrade to dual core with the SAME motherboard...unlike Intel, where you need the new 945 boards for the pentium D's to work. Also, AMD 64 STILL outperforms the pentium D in games, so even if it is cheaper, and you're forced to decide between A64 and Pentium D, A64 is still your ultimate choice.

 

[Markfw]

Intel Pentium D OUTPERFORMS the AMD systems.

In 2 tests out of them all ! And that 840 is $1000 vs the 4200 at $579 which beat it in almost the other tests ! The 820 is much slower than that 840 and that is the one that is rediculous to buy.