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91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster

o rly?

I posted facts that go against everything you or amused have posted.

You have posted what exactly? If anyone is getting schooled it is you.

A person who thinks Iran is an Arab nation. Anyone with knowledge of the area will ignore your posts for that statement alone.

So go on show me where I got schooled. Show me one thing you said that I didn't prove you wrong in. Go on genius boy. Show me

I didn't say that Iran is an Arab nation. When someone asked about what they are, I told them that they're caucasian, aryan. Read up in the thread a bit, you'll see my post.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Aimster

o rly?

I posted facts that go against everything you or amused have posted.

You have posted what exactly? If anyone is getting schooled it is you.

A person who thinks Iran is an Arab nation. Anyone with knowledge of the area will ignore your posts for that statement alone.

So go on show me where I got schooled. Show me one thing you said that I didn't prove you wrong in. Go on genius boy. Show me

I didn't say that Iran is an Arab nation. When someone asked about what they are, I told them that they're caucasian, aryan. Read up in the thread a bit, you'll see my post.

When I said no Arab nation is building bombs...

you clearly replied to my quote talking about Iran.

It was not I who brought Iran to this thread. The misinformed brought it up linking them to "Arab".

 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster

When I said no Arab nation is building bombs...

you clearly replied to my quote talking about Iran.

It was not I who brought Iran to this thread. The misinformed brought it up linking them to "Arab".

When I replied to that, I was replying to it in the context that Israel's neighbors in the region are trying to kill them. I know Iran isn't Arab, otherwise I wouldn't have previously told the other poster in the thread that they're caucasian, aryan.
 

StageLeft

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Most of the pics in the first post are reasons why israel SUCKs. I could show you pics of majestic military parades in North Korea.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Why is Iran trying to kill Israel?
There is no evidence Iran wishes to destroy Israel.

Personally, I think that some of the Iranian president's comments were taken out of context. I think that the US media has a tremendous pro-Jewish slant on it, and they're afraid of the people hearing facts that haven't been filtered for them.

But I'm still wary of Iran developing nuclear power. Everyone knows that the step from nuclear fuel to nuclear weapons is a pretty small one, since once you obtain the ability to refine uranium it's only a matter of how enriched you want to make it. I don't think Iran really needs nuclear power for energy production, and I think that they are trying to develop nuclear weapons.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.

A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim
C) You are allowed to study Hebrew at Jewish schools.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...t/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1150885901123

he is obviously part of the Jewish sect that is anti-Zionist, but he clearly says that Jews are allowed to practice their religion in their language. Who are you to say otherwise?

D) This one might come as a big shocker so get ready... here goes... Muslims in Iran are also victims of "discrimination".
So if you want to show me how Jews inside Iran are victims of the regime, why don't you show me how the average citizen is not a victim of the regime?

So go on, show me how the Muslims inside Iran benefit from being Muslim where the Jews do not benefit from being a Jew.
I'll name you several
A) Jews are allowed moderation when it comes to their dress-code. They will usually not get in trouble if they are in a public place and their headscarf is not showing. A Muslim will be beaten and taken to jail or fined.
B) Jews are not being forced to join the military. It is mandatory 2 year service.
C) Jews, being a very small minority are guaranteed a spot in Parliament. Arabs, Christians, Turks, Kurds? I think not.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.

A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim
C) You are allowed to study Hebrew at Jewish schools.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...t/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1150885901123

he is obviously part of the Jewish sect that is anti-Zionist, but he clearly says that Jews are allowed to practice their religion in their language. Who are you to say otherwise?

D) This one might come as a big shocker so get ready... here goes... Muslims in Iran are also victims of "discrimination".
So if you want to show me how Jews inside Iran are victims of the regime, why don't you show me how the average citizen is not a victim of the regime?

So go on, show me how the Muslims inside Iran benefit from being Muslim where the Jews do not benefit from being a Jew.
I'll name you several
A) Jews are allowed moderation when it comes to their dress-code. They will usually not get in trouble if they are in a public place and their headscarf is not showing. A Muslim will be beaten and taken to jail or fined.
B) Jews are not being forced to join the military. It is mandatory 2 year service.
C) Jews, being a very small minority are guaranteed a spot in Parliament. Arabs, Christians, Turks, Kurds? I think not.

Aimster, just stop. You have no valid refutation to the Wiki article I posted listing the limitations on Jews in Iran. None.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Aimster
Why is Iran trying to kill Israel?
There is no evidence Iran wishes to destroy Israel.

Personally, I think that some of the Iranian president's comments were taken out of context. I think that the US media has a tremendous pro-Jewish slant on it, and they're afraid of the people hearing facts that haven't been filtered for them.

But I'm still wary of Iran developing nuclear power. Everyone knows that the step from nuclear fuel to nuclear weapons is a pretty small one, since once you obtain the ability to refine uranium it's only a matter of how enriched you want to make it. I don't think Iran really needs nuclear power for energy production, and I think that they are trying to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran does not nuclear power. They have a very horrible energy crisis at the moment. Their oil will eventually run dry. Right now they are exporting 4mbpd and are buying back 2mbpd of that very oil. That leaves them with 2mbpd of oil revenue. Their energy situation is only declining rather than improving.

During the Shah's regime, Iran came out and said they are going to get nuclear weapons. The U.S didn't care and went ahead with the planned construction of 20 nuclear reactors to be build inside Iran by the year 2000 I believe it was (not sure about the exact year).

Now today, Iran is a Regime that is worried about attack. A nuclear bomb will prevent the U.S from ever attacking them. So they have every reason to want a nuclear bomb because they are afraid of the mighty U.S. A nuclear bomb is a guarantee that nobody will touch them.

I don't think it has anything to do with Israel at all nor do I think Iran will ever do such a barbaric thing such as launching a nuclear weapon at Israel. They have stockpiles of chemical weapons already on hand, but refuse to supply anyone with those weapons. In a sense Israel is safe in that regard.

However, what a nuclear Iran will do is give Iran more power to arm groups such as Hezbollah with more strength. It will also allow Iran to move into the Palestinian territory and arm them with more strength.
Basically it will give Iran the power to act like the M.E bully and do whatever they want.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.

A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim
C) You are allowed to study Hebrew at Jewish schools.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...t/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1150885901123

he is obviously part of the Jewish sect that is anti-Zionist, but he clearly says that Jews are allowed to practice their religion in their language. Who are you to say otherwise?

D) This one might come as a big shocker so get ready... here goes... Muslims in Iran are also victims of "discrimination".
So if you want to show me how Jews inside Iran are victims of the regime, why don't you show me how the average citizen is not a victim of the regime?

So go on, show me how the Muslims inside Iran benefit from being Muslim where the Jews do not benefit from being a Jew.
I'll name you several
A) Jews are allowed moderation when it comes to their dress-code. They will usually not get in trouble if they are in a public place and their headscarf is not showing. A Muslim will be beaten and taken to jail or fined.
B) Jews are not being forced to join the military. It is mandatory 2 year service.
C) Jews, being a very small minority are guaranteed a spot in Parliament. Arabs, Christians, Turks, Kurds? I think not.

Aimster, just stop. You have no valid refutation to the Wiki article I posted listing the limitations on Jews in Iran. None.

everything I posted is a FACT.
Are you suggesting otherwise?

I don't give .02 about Wiki. I just answered all your Wiki B.S with facts.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.

A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim
C) You are allowed to study Hebrew at Jewish schools.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...t/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1150885901123

he is obviously part of the Jewish sect that is anti-Zionist, but he clearly says that Jews are allowed to practice their religion in their language. Who are you to say otherwise?

D) This one might come as a big shocker so get ready... here goes... Muslims in Iran are also victims of "discrimination".
So if you want to show me how Jews inside Iran are victims of the regime, why don't you show me how the average citizen is not a victim of the regime?

So go on, show me how the Muslims inside Iran benefit from being Muslim where the Jews do not benefit from being a Jew.
I'll name you several
A) Jews are allowed moderation when it comes to their dress-code. They will usually not get in trouble if they are in a public place and their headscarf is not showing. A Muslim will be beaten and taken to jail or fined.
B) Jews are not being forced to join the military. It is mandatory 2 year service.
C) Jews, being a very small minority are guaranteed a spot in Parliament. Arabs, Christians, Turks, Kurds? I think not.

Aimster, just stop. You have no valid refutation to the Wiki article I posted listing the limitations on Jews in Iran. None.

everything I posted is a FACT.
Are you suggesting otherwise?

I don't give .02 about Wiki. I just answered all your Wiki B.S with facts.

Why yes, the whole world is lying except you, right? :roll:

Hell, even your own articles proved you wrong.

I bet the US State Dept is lying too, huh?

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35497.htm

This is but one reference from the Wiki article... which is fully referenced, and your absurd claims are not.

Just stop. No one believes you.
 

chusteczka

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Here are some more pictures to add to the thread.
Hot Israeli Girls thread at another forum
Army cracks down on low-riding soldiers ( Cute Israeli soldierettes ) news article with some nice pictures.
A funny comparison of Israeli women vs. women of Hezbollah


Now, on to a question.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/08/INGODGH99Q1.DTL

Denial of Holocaust nothing new in Iran
Ties to Hitler led to plots against British and Jews

Edwin Black
Sunday, January 8, 2006

...
Relations between Berlin and Tehran were strong from the moment Hitler came to power in 1933. At that time, Reza Shah Pahlavi's nation was known as Persia. ...
...
Shortly after World War II broke out in 1939, the Mufti of Jerusalem crafted a strategic alliance with Hitler to exchange Iraqi oil for active Arab and Islamic participation in the murder of Jews in the Mideast and Eastern Europe. ...

Likewise, the mufti of Jerusalem was spirited across the border to Tehran, where he continued to call for the destruction of the Jews and the defeat of the British.
...
The plan once again was for a total diversion of oil from the Allies to the Nazis, in exchange for the accelerated destruction of the Jews in Eastern Europe and the Nazis' support for an Arab state. Through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co., Iran had already been supplying Hitler's forces in occupied Czechoslovakia and Austria. .....

This is a very interesting article on an aspect of WWII that I have not before known of or considered. One thing that bothers me about this is that I have always understood one of the reasons Germany lost the war was due to running out of oil. This situation is supposed to be one of the main driving factors for the American drive to control as much oil in the world as it can.

How could Germany have run out of oil in WWII if they had a strong ally providing them with oil? I had thought the pursuit of oil was the main reason for German involvement in northern Africa.

Apparently, Iran did have an alliance with Germany. However, it must have been a minor alliance that was not fully committed since Persia/Iran has not been considered a part of the WWII Axis alliance. This makes me wonder why Iran did not commit itself more to Hitler. I think the result of further commitment would have been dramatic for the whole world.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.

A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim
C) You are allowed to study Hebrew at Jewish schools.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...t/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1150885901123

he is obviously part of the Jewish sect that is anti-Zionist, but he clearly says that Jews are allowed to practice their religion in their language. Who are you to say otherwise?

D) This one might come as a big shocker so get ready... here goes... Muslims in Iran are also victims of "discrimination".
So if you want to show me how Jews inside Iran are victims of the regime, why don't you show me how the average citizen is not a victim of the regime?

So go on, show me how the Muslims inside Iran benefit from being Muslim where the Jews do not benefit from being a Jew.
I'll name you several
A) Jews are allowed moderation when it comes to their dress-code. They will usually not get in trouble if they are in a public place and their headscarf is not showing. A Muslim will be beaten and taken to jail or fined.
B) Jews are not being forced to join the military. It is mandatory 2 year service.
C) Jews, being a very small minority are guaranteed a spot in Parliament. Arabs, Christians, Turks, Kurds? I think not.

Aimster, just stop. You have no valid refutation to the Wiki article I posted listing the limitations on Jews in Iran. None.

everything I posted is a FACT.
Are you suggesting otherwise?

I don't give .02 about Wiki. I just answered all your Wiki B.S with facts.

Why yes, the whole world is lying except you, right? :roll:

Hell, even your own articles proved you wrong.

I bet the US State Dept is lying too, huh?

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35497.htm

This is but one reference from the Wiki article... which is fully referenced, and your absurd claims are not.

Just stop. No one believes you.

The articles clearly said:


A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim

I even posted a link for C.

Either you didn't read it or you lack reading comprehension skills.
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
ita a museum

its a 12 hr flight and if you never went to israel and you are jewish you can come for free on birthright

Can I become Jewish?

/sarcasm...
 

Pegun

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So i just have a question. you went on a study trip. What exactly are you studying and how is it that all of these women let you take pictures of them? Was it one of those "Hey its the creepy american with the camera again!"? BTW i do agree the landscape is beautiful
 

50cent1228

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
right now im in Israel on a 2 week study trip. I have many nice pictures. this shows how awesome it is!

tanks

holy m16s/15s

on Masada overlooking the Dead Sea

The Western Wall

a gladiator arena


more pictures will come after I return home


here to make some ppl happy

1
2
3

edited: to fix location error

if they were just laying there i would have took one ran to some secluded place and fired some rounds in the air...just one of things i want to do before i die
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Articles that prove Iranian Jews want to stay in Iran and prefer Iran over Israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...1479&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119218

In one of the articles it even mentions the Iranian President (Wacko) giving money to the Jewish hospitals inside Iran.
I have another article where the former President of Iran went on to call the Wacko an idiot. He basically said the Holocaust is a fact and that Iran regrets what happened to the U.S hostages in 1979.

Like I said in previous statements, there is no one voice for the Iranian people.

If you had any idea what is going on inside Iran right now you would know. Jews have it lucky in Iran today. The average citizen is being beaten up and forced into the military. This has been going on at the start of this month. Revolution talks have been stirring in the air. Jews don't have to serve in the Iranian military. They are usually not harassed when their headscarf is not showing.

Imagine you are walking in the street and the police surround you. They check your ID. If you are not a student they throw you on a bus and take you to the army where you will be a slave for 2 years.
Imagine you are walking in the street and your headscarf is pulled back and your hair is showing. Police will arrest you and harass you. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you are screwed.

Under Iranian Law (constitution) , the minorities are protected citizens. The Iranian President has no power to change that even if wanted to. His power however is limited to reforms in Iran which he has obviously taken back a decade because he is an Islamic wacko. His powers do not extend beyond reforms.

Those articles are old. Anyone living inside Iran today should get out. The country has turned to poop because of the wacko

Aimster you just owned yourself with those articles (the last one is 404).

The first one admits life must be discreet, but people love their HOMELAND. WELL DUH!

The second is an old man who could not adjust to his new home and... loves his homeland. DUH!

Neither do anything to discount the FACTS I posted. All they show is that some people will love their birthplace no matter what and have trouble adjusting to new lives outside their homeland. This happened with people who defected from the USSR to the US back during the cold war. Does that mean the USSR was not oppressive?

Finally, your BBC article even AGREES with many of the legal and political restrictions in the Wiki I posted. Did you even read all of it???

Try again. I cannot believe you think ANYTHING in those anecdotal stories disproves the basic facts I posted.

Do I think you're pulling all this out of your ass? No. I think you're so seriously deluded that you actually believe those articles support your position, when in reality they do just the opposite.

A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim
C) You are allowed to study Hebrew at Jewish schools.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?...t/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1150885901123

he is obviously part of the Jewish sect that is anti-Zionist, but he clearly says that Jews are allowed to practice their religion in their language. Who are you to say otherwise?

D) This one might come as a big shocker so get ready... here goes... Muslims in Iran are also victims of "discrimination".
So if you want to show me how Jews inside Iran are victims of the regime, why don't you show me how the average citizen is not a victim of the regime?

So go on, show me how the Muslims inside Iran benefit from being Muslim where the Jews do not benefit from being a Jew.
I'll name you several
A) Jews are allowed moderation when it comes to their dress-code. They will usually not get in trouble if they are in a public place and their headscarf is not showing. A Muslim will be beaten and taken to jail or fined.
B) Jews are not being forced to join the military. It is mandatory 2 year service.
C) Jews, being a very small minority are guaranteed a spot in Parliament. Arabs, Christians, Turks, Kurds? I think not.

Aimster, just stop. You have no valid refutation to the Wiki article I posted listing the limitations on Jews in Iran. None.

everything I posted is a FACT.
Are you suggesting otherwise?

I don't give .02 about Wiki. I just answered all your Wiki B.S with facts.

Why yes, the whole world is lying except you, right? :roll:

Hell, even your own articles proved you wrong.

I bet the US State Dept is lying too, huh?

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35497.htm

This is but one reference from the Wiki article... which is fully referenced, and your absurd claims are not.

Just stop. No one believes you.

The articles clearly said:


A) You are allowed to travel from Iran and Israel and vice versa
B) There is no LAW requiring the President of the Jewish schools to be Muslim

I even posted a link for C.

Either you didn't read it or you lack reading comprehension skills.

And the Wiki article said travel was allowed, but made difficult and entire families are restricted from traveling together.

Don't talk to me about reading comprehension.

Who said ANYTHING about laws forcing Muslim principles in Jewish schools?

Jews may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.

Again, don't talk to me about reading comprehension. I actually read what I post as references, unlike you.
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: chusteczka
Now, on to a question.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/08/INGODGH99Q1.DTL

The plan once again was for a total diversion of oil from the Allies to the Nazis, in exchange for the accelerated destruction of the Jews in Eastern Europe and the Nazis' support for an Arab state. Through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co., Iran had already been supplying Hitler's forces in occupied Czechoslovakia and Austria. .....

This is a very interesting article on an aspect of WWII that I have not before known of or considered. One thing that bothers me about this is that I have always understood one of the reasons Germany lost the war was due to running out of oil. This situation is supposed to be one of the main driving factors for the American drive to control as much oil in the world as it can.

How could Germany have run out of oil in WWII if they had a strong ally providing them with oil?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran
 
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