Originally posted by: TheGizmo
HOTTer: http://www.serialno3817131.com/images/01.jpg
damnit i gotta stop looking at this website and go back to work
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124...
Originally posted by: aphex
I can't wait to go to Israel... Wonder if they still over that free trip and how old you can be for it...
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I don't really want to get into this argument, but "just" fighting guerrillas is alot more difficult fighting an organized army, especially if you are trying to minimize civillian casulties.Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Amused
Well, for the military buff, Israel's army is awesome. It is, man for man, the best in the world. It's sad they are forced to be that way, but one can still admire it.
Umm, they couldn't even beat Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon?
Depends on what you consider a win? I know there were allot more dead Hezbollah than Israelis. Yes Israel didn?t complete objectives, but no doubt I would rather have to fight on the Israeli side. They had way less casualties.
Yeah, but I mean they were just fighting guerrillas. After that performance do you really think they're that much better than the armies of any other Western nation? Rather, if it had been the US or UK army in their situation, do you think they would've done worse?
Hey everyone, I am just passing by this thread and I just had the urge to crap all over the highlighted part before I go.
k thnx bai!
<----- Eye Witness
When was the last time Israel (or any nation) carpet bombed an entire city?
I thought not.
He said minimize, not completely stop. If you want to keep your soldiers in and among civilians and use them as shields you have to expect some civilian casualties.
Israel went too far during their war with Lebanon.
Why does this happen? When you are behind a desk and all you care about are your political ratings, you will give the order to do whatever necessary to win the war. You don't care about who dies on the other side. You care about your chances of winning an election or staying popular.
If the most powerful nations of the world started to elect some civilized individuals then maybe none of this brutality would happen in the first place.
Yes, my post is a direct attack at the PM of Israel.
Yes, of course because it's not as if Israel is surrounded by much bigger and more powerful nations who have been bent on it's utter and total destruction for 60+ years. Nope.
:roll:
If the Arab nations disarmed there would be peace. If Israel disarmed there would be no more Israel.
oh please.
Israel is not surrounded by anyone more powerful than them
Neither is anyone around them trying to go to war with Israel.
You make it sound as if the Arabs are out to destroy Israel.
If that was the case they could easily stack up on Russian military tech and build nuclear plants. Nobody will stop them. Saudi Arabia/UAE/Kuwait/Qatar are loaded with surplus $
Yeah, because 1948 and 1967 never happened, right? The War of Attrition never happened, right? EVERY one of Israel's neighbors has attacked them, a few times almost all at once. Israel owned them all every time.
What the fsck are they teaching in schools these days??? Because it's obvious they aren't teaching history.
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
I visit the West Bank on 1 month family trips. I have many nice pictures. this shows how awesome it is!
tanks
holy abandoned military installation
as of last summer, pic is 2 years old, it's been converted to an elementary school
a settlement overlooking Ramalla
The West Bank Wall
again
and again
and again
moar
still there
yet again
last one
another settlement
Ma'ale Adumim, biggest settlement in the West Bank
almost as big as a city
It's a f*cking walk in the park :roll:
I took all of those
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I don't really want to get into this argument, but "just" fighting guerrillas is alot more difficult fighting an organized army, especially if you are trying to minimize civillian casulties.Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Amused
Well, for the military buff, Israel's army is awesome. It is, man for man, the best in the world. It's sad they are forced to be that way, but one can still admire it.
Umm, they couldn't even beat Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon?
Depends on what you consider a win? I know there were allot more dead Hezbollah than Israelis. Yes Israel didn?t complete objectives, but no doubt I would rather have to fight on the Israeli side. They had way less casualties.
Yeah, but I mean they were just fighting guerrillas. After that performance do you really think they're that much better than the armies of any other Western nation? Rather, if it had been the US or UK army in their situation, do you think they would've done worse?
Hey everyone, I am just passing by this thread and I just had the urge to crap all over the highlighted part before I go.
k thnx bai!
<----- Eye Witness
When was the last time Israel (or any nation) carpet bombed an entire city?
I thought not.
He said minimize, not completely stop. If you want to keep your soldiers in and among civilians and use them as shields you have to expect some civilian casualties.
Israel went too far during their war with Lebanon.
Why does this happen? When you are behind a desk and all you care about are your political ratings, you will give the order to do whatever necessary to win the war. You don't care about who dies on the other side. You care about your chances of winning an election or staying popular.
If the most powerful nations of the world started to elect some civilized individuals then maybe none of this brutality would happen in the first place.
Yes, my post is a direct attack at the PM of Israel.
Yes, of course because it's not as if Israel is surrounded by much bigger and more powerful nations who have been bent on it's utter and total destruction for 60+ years. Nope.
:roll:
If the Arab nations disarmed there would be peace. If Israel disarmed there would be no more Israel.
oh please.
Israel is not surrounded by anyone more powerful than them
Neither is anyone around them trying to go to war with Israel.
You make it sound as if the Arabs are out to destroy Israel.
If that was the case they could easily stack up on Russian military tech and build nuclear plants. Nobody will stop them. Saudi Arabia/UAE/Kuwait/Qatar are loaded with surplus $
Yeah, because 1948 and 1967 never happened, right? The War of Attrition never happened, right? EVERY one of Israel's neighbors has attacked them, a few times almost all at once. Israel owned them all every time.
What the fsck are they teaching in schools these days??? Because it's obvious they aren't teaching history.
LOL.
1948 and 1967?
Yeah that was like ages ago.
Let's bring up the Japanese and German military during WW2 while we are talking about history.
Let's talk about Vietnam while we are at it.
Hell the strongest military in the region in the 1960s and 1970s was Iran.
......
The Arab military power in the region is made up of U.S tech.
Their entire military system is 100% different.
If the Arabs wanted Israel dead they wouldn't buy U.S tech that was downgraded.
Show me proof that the Arabs want Israel dead.
Why are they not building nuclear plants to nuke Israel? Nobody is stopping them.
Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran's President is also not the ruler of Iran
& Jews currently live in Iran with the same rights as everyone else, including political rights.
Allegations of Discrimination
Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews suffer from officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and housing. According to the U.S. Department of State, Jews may not occupy senior positions in the government or the military and are prevented from serving in the judiciary and security services and from becoming public school heads.[33]
The anti-Israel policies of the Iranian government, along with a perception among radical Muslims that all Jewish citizens support the State of Israel, create a hostile atmosphere for the Jewish community. In 2004, many Iranian newspapers noted the one-hundredth anniversary of the publishing of the anti-Semitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[33] Jews often are the target of degrading caricatures in the Iranian press.[citation needed] Jewish leaders reportedly are reluctant to draw attention to official mistreatment of their community due to fear of government reprisal.[33]
However in a rather unprecedented move, the sole Jewish member in the Iranian parliament, Maurice Motamed, strongly condemned exhibition of cartoons about the Holocaust which recently took place in Tehran and he has also written a letter to Iran?s president questioning his denial of Holocaust calling it "a very big insult to Jews all around the world".[16]
The legal system also discriminates against religious minorities who receive lower awards than Muslims in injury and death lawsuits and incur heavier punishments. In 2002, the law was passed that made the amount of "blood money" (diyeh) paid by a perpetrator for killing or wounding a Christian, Jew, or Zoroastrian man the same as it would be for killing or wounding a Muslim.[33]
With some exceptions, there is little restriction of or interference with the Jewish religious practice; however, education of Jewish children has become more difficult in recent years. The Iranian government reportedly allows Hebrew instruction, recognizing that it is necessary for Jewish religious practice. However, it strongly discourages the distribution of Hebrew texts, in practice making it difficult to teach the language. Moreover, the Iranian government has required that several Jewish schools remain open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, in conformity with the schedule of other schools in the school system. Since working or attending school on the Sabbath violates Jewish law, this requirement has made it impossible for observant Jews both to attend school and adhere to a fundamental tenet of their religion.[33]
Though alcohol is illegal in Iran, a special legal provision allows Jews to make and use wine for Sabbath celebrations, according to an unconfirmed source.
Jewish citizens are permitted to obtain passports and to travel outside the country, but they often are denied the multiple-exit permits normally issued to other citizens. With the exception of certain business travelers, the authorities require Jewish persons to obtain clearance and pay additional fees before each trip abroad. The Iranian government is concerned about the emigration of Jewish citizens to Israel and permission generally is not granted for all members of a Jewish family to travel outside the country at the same time.[33]
In 2000, 10 of 13 Jews arrested in 1999 were convicted on charges of illegal contact with Israel, conspiracy to form an illegal organization, and recruiting agents. Along with two Muslim defendants, the 10 Jews received prison sentences ranging from 4 to 13 years. An appeals court subsequently overturned the convictions for forming an illegal organization and recruiting agents, but it upheld the convictions for illegal contacts with Israel with reduced sentences. One of the 10 was released in February 2001 and another in January 2002, both upon completion of their prison terms. Three additional prisoners were released before the end of their sentences in October 2002. In April 2003, it was announced that the last five were to be released. It is not clear if the eight who were released before the completion of their sentences were fully pardoned or were released provisionally.[33] Even though anti-Semitic acts are rare in Iran, the trial led to the rising of tensions against the Jewish community.[citation needed] During and shortly after the trial, Jewish businesses in Tehran and Shiraz were targets of vandalism and boycotts, and Jewish persons reportedly have suffered personal harassment and intimidation.[33]
Originally posted by: Aimster
LOL.
1948 and 1967?
Yeah that was like ages ago.
Let's bring up the Japanese and German military during WW2 while we are talking about history.
Let's talk about Vietnam while we are at it.
Hell the strongest military in the region in the 1960s and 1970s was Iran.
......
The Arab military power in the region is made up of U.S tech.
Their entire military system is 100% different.
If the Arabs wanted Israel dead they wouldn't buy U.S tech that was downgraded.
Show me proof that the Arabs want Israel dead.
Why are they not building nuclear plants to nuke Israel? Nobody is stopping them.
Originally posted by: Martin
Oh my, you didn't show Israeli chicks with tank and guns, you must be a Nazi...
Originally posted by: clamum
Niiiice. Israeli chicks are hot. :thumbsup:Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: purbeast0
I expected some hot israeli chicks
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Israel is one country I'd definitely like to visit.
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Aimster
LOL.
1948 and 1967?
Yeah that was like ages ago.
Let's bring up the Japanese and German military during WW2 while we are talking about history.
Let's talk about Vietnam while we are at it.
Hell the strongest military in the region in the 1960s and 1970s was Iran.
......
The Arab military power in the region is made up of U.S tech.
Their entire military system is 100% different.
If the Arabs wanted Israel dead they wouldn't buy U.S tech that was downgraded.
Show me proof that the Arabs want Israel dead.
Why are they not building nuclear plants to nuke Israel? Nobody is stopping them.
God. Youre joking right? Noone can be this ignorant. I dont even know where to begin...what the hell are they teaching in school these days? Is everyone getting their history lessons from the media?
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
WoW, Look at those eyes! :thumbsup:This isnt hot?
Originally posted by: Aimster
LOL.
1948 and 1967?
Yeah that was like ages ago.
Originally posted by: Aimster
Show me proof that the Arabs want Israel dead.
Originally posted by: Aimster
Why are they not building nuclear plants to nuke Israel? Nobody is stopping them.
Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation
so... ehhemmm
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation
so... ehhemmm
then...what ethnic group does iran belong too? unless you divide the muslim countries by shitte or suni?
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation
so... ehhemmm
then...what ethnic group does iran belong too? unless you divide the muslim countries by shitte or suni?