This @$#$! LAN

glowninja

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I've got 2 win98 machines I'm trying to peer to peer with crossover cable.

My host has a generic NIC hooked up to the cable, which works great.

My other NIC in the machine is an Intel 10/100 pro management adapter. This thing does NOT want to pick up the other generic card I have in the other comp. Tcp/ip is bound to the card, I've specified 196.128.0.1 and 255.255.255.0 subnt on the lan nic. Same domain, unique names.
I've let both machines sit for 15 minutes, they never pick ea other up.

I want to share out the cable, I've downloaded winproxy, but can't use it cuz the network is being a pain.

I've swapped pci slots for the intel nic, hasn't helped. I'm thinking this nic has a problem, I was able to set up the lan just fine with both generic cards.

Should I head out to best buy and pick up a netgear for 10 bux? I'm pulling out my hair here. Any suggestions?

thankz,
t
 

CopperHead

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Make sure that both cards are set to auto-detect speed. It could be one of them is in full duplex mode. Also it could just be a bad cable.

 

glowninja

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Nope, its not the cable, I had it working no prob with the generic cards. Both cards default to auto-detect anyway, as far as duplex goes. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with that card.
I'm picking up a netgear tomorrow anyway. I'll give that a shot.
 

glowninja

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Nope, its not the cable, I had it working no prob with the generic cards. Both cards default to auto-detect anyway, as far as duplex goes. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with that card.
I'm picking up a netgear tomorrow anyway. I'll give that a shot.
 

GD695372

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Bad card? It wouldn't be the first one. You might have a problem with your protocols too. I remember when winsock went bad on me(back int eh days when i had dial-up), and it would restore the bad copy of winsock whenever i replaced it. I got to about the hair-pulling point after aobut 2 months. Ended up re-installing winblows into another dir. Get another nic and save yourself the grief. If that doesn't work, you're probably confusing crossover/straight cabling or more likely have a problem in software somewhere.

You think you've got problems, I'm trying to setup a chained DSL wan through blockage in CO.
 

esung

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how's the other computer's IP configured? did you specify the IP on the other one? it has to be 192.168.0.x if your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and they have to be different (duh!) on different NICs.

 

esung

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how's the other computer's IP configured? did you specify the IP on the other one? it has to be 192.168.0.x if your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and they have to be different (duh!) on different NICs.

 

glowninja

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Alrighty, I've got a new nic.

host: 196.128.0.1
255.255.255.0

client: 196.128.0.2
255.255.255.0

Tcp/ip bound to each nic respectively.

Niether pc will see itself unless I enable file and print sharing.
Is that normal? I thought they should pick up the ip regardless. I also thought f&p was a big security loophole.
 

glowninja

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For clarification purposes--

I enabled f&p on the client. I can browse to the client thru netw neighbrhood. The client doesnt see me, but I can ping me (host) from the client.

Security wise it should be ok to leave f&p on the client, right?

I can ping both without it, so it should be ok.
 

Ringer

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I have two comps connected using Microsoft ICS using a crossover cable. I have roadrunner cable with a 3com(3c-900b-tpo) nic for the cable modem(host). I have a d-link (dfe-530tx)nic installed on the host as well. I have a d-link(de-528)nic installed in the client attached to my d-link on the host. My only problems i had with tcp/ip were when i initially installed the network. I reformated with all cards installed on both machines and installed win ME on both comps,with the crossover and cable modem hooked up ....To my amasment, it worked without a hitch. I used the inbedded Microsoft ICS, network wizard, and viola'...both comps were detected and sharing the cable modem. I enabled my file and printer sharing on the host and had no problems ....the tcp/ip config was automatic with Windows ME. I had Sygate software when i used Win98 and found that very well, might want to try that. I use Zone ALarm Software firewall. Very good for this type of setup.
 

glowninja

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ICS is not working. Argh.

I thought the host gets the dns entries, and the client can have a static ip and the gateway. Does the host get the gateway also? Does the client need the dns???
I can only switch settings and reboot so many times. Grr.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could clarify who gets what.
thankx.
 

TBP

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prolly you need to enable netbios over tcp/ip. Also, maybe the two machines are just fighting for the master browser.
 

glowninja

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Yknow, it would really help if I had the right ip's entered.
After looking at them for so long I kinda transposed a couple of the numbers. Duh!

Its working great now.

Thanks guys.

 
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