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Cerb

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Originally posted by: edro13
Being obesely fat is a disability. Some fat people cannot lose weight. Some cannot afford gastric bypass surgery either. The people who get the wheel chair passes are 150lbs+ over weight. Don't rag on them until you have lived in their shoes.
For those people (like my grandmother) who've never been fat (and now suffering because of it, actually), and think anyone can lose weight if they wanted to at the drop of a hat, sure.

But if you gluttoned your way into being fat, it's your own fault, and you should get no privelidges for it. If you have medical problems, that's one thing. But when you see people who are 350lb and eating large quantities of fast food...that's different, and also somebody who deserves what they get.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: edro13
Being obesely fat is a disability. Some fat people cannot lose weight. Some cannot afford gastric bypass surgery either. The people who get the wheel chair passes are 150lbs+ over weight. Don't rag on them until you have lived in their shoes.
Yet they can afford 3 Big Macs a Supersized Fry and a large diet coke?
Hahaha, I do love those people... but I am just saying that you don't know the story behind all fat people. Some of them have medical problems that cause them to eat or that cause them to be fat. I am just saying not to judge them until you know the whole story.

I'd say 90% or more of them are fat because they don't exercise and eat mass quantities of crappy food
 

Cerb

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Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...
 

natedawg

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My ex girlfriends mom had a problem with her pituitary (sp) gland and she couldn't lose weight for anything. She was on several special diets which never worked. Not all fat people are fat because they eat too much.

My current girlfriend is a dietician and she always tells me to get a diet drink when we eat fast food. The rational behind that is you should get your calories from the food not from the drink. Considering a regular 20oz Coke can have around 250 or 300 calories it just means you can eat more if you want.
 

TC2181

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Nov 20, 2003
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Morons. Who cares if they get handicap parking spaces? You guys sound lazier than they do. Losing weight is not that easy. Its like telling someone addicted to cigarettes to "just quit". I'm sure there are some cases where this is abused, but if they are very obese, even walking down a sidewalk can be stressing their body to the max.
 

GasX

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Ever see a 500LB Ethiopian?

Dieting CAN work, no matter who you are.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?


EDIT: though i do agree that fat people should NOT get such stuff. being fat is not a disabliity in itself.
 

TC2181

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Nov 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.
 

TC2181

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Nov 20, 2003
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Being severly overweight is often due to a "lack of self-control", or depression...a serious psychological disorder. Not all fat people are "lazy".
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.

you people are stretching it quite a bit imo.
 

zixxer

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: TC2181
Being severly overweight is often due to a "lack of self-control", or depression...a serious psychological disorder. Not all fat people are "lazy".

lack of self control??

I tag those both as LAZY. You can coin a term to it all day long, but it's lazy.

A pituitary gland disorder I understand;


depressed so then you eat? Maybe walking from the very farthest parking space to the door will help you out, rather than park in the front.
 

TC2181

Banned
Nov 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.

you people are stretching it quite a bit imo.

And you are seriously disturbed if you get really irritated at who gets to park in the handicap parking spaces, like it is some sort of special priviledge.
 

zixxer

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.

you people are stretching it quite a bit imo.

And you are seriously disturbed if you get really irritated at who gets to park in the handicap parking spaces, like it is some sort of special priviledge.

If you are fat because you eat too much then it IS "some sort of special priviledge".
 

TC2181

Banned
Nov 20, 2003
634
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Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Being severly overweight is often due to a "lack of self-control", or depression...a serious psychological disorder. Not all fat people are "lazy".

lack of self control??

I tag those both as LAZY. You can coin a term to it all day long, but it's lazy.

A pituitary gland disorder I understand;


depressed so then you eat? Maybe walking from the very farthest parking space to the door will help you out, rather than park in the front.

Most severly obese people can't make that walk. They'd likely keel over from running out of breath. You try putting an extra 300 lbs of weight around your body and see how you operate.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
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Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.

you people are stretching it quite a bit imo.

Not really. my father-in-law is overweight. well hes about 230 and 5ft 5, he cant go to the gym and work out. though he does go and walk in the pool etc. I had seen him before his back went all the way out. he was a fairly fit 185lbs.

I take him up to the veterans hospital up in Madison all the time. There are some others from Vietnam who are well overweight from losing legs or such.

 

zixxer

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Being severly overweight is often due to a "lack of self-control", or depression...a serious psychological disorder. Not all fat people are "lazy".

lack of self control??

I tag those both as LAZY. You can coin a term to it all day long, but it's lazy.

A pituitary gland disorder I understand;


depressed so then you eat? Maybe walking from the very farthest parking space to the door will help you out, rather than park in the front.

Most severly obese people can't make that walk. They'd likely keel over from running out of breath. You try putting an extra 300 lbs of weight around your body and see how you operate.

I would never EVER let myself get so overweight I couldn't walk down a sidewalk. EVER. If you do, you have an issue with self control that parking 8ft from the door WILL NOT HELP.


At the VERY most, they should be issues handicapped parking stickers on the premise that they lose weight, (as in, 5-10lbs++) and when/if they don't meet that goal the sticker won't be renewed.
 

TC2181

Banned
Nov 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.

you people are stretching it quite a bit imo.

And you are seriously disturbed if you get really irritated at who gets to park in the handicap parking spaces, like it is some sort of special priviledge.

If you are fat because you eat too much then it IS "some sort of special priviledge".

By your logic, anyone who is in a wheel chair due to an accident that was their fault does not deserve a handicapped parking space.
 

zixxer

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: edro13
If a smoker gets lung cancer and can't walk long distances because they lose their breath, should they be allowed to get a wheelchair card? Yes. Same thing...
Yes, it is. And I'd say they should have to park in the back like other people and ride the wheelchair in from there.

What about an athlete who's in wheelchair because of a sports related accident? Should he park in the back too? I mean it's his fault - he shouldn't have been playing football...

what about someone like my father-in-law, he was hurt in Vietnam he had to have several back serguries. He was able to work for years but about 15 years ago his back went out again and can NOT work anymore. He can barely walk 50 yards without sever pain.

So what about men like that?

That brings up a good point, too. Some people are injured, and then put on weight do to the INABILITY to excercise. Of course, to these peoples logic, they should be able to magically get up after they are healed and lose all the weight.

you people are stretching it quite a bit imo.

And you are seriously disturbed if you get really irritated at who gets to park in the handicap parking spaces, like it is some sort of special priviledge.

If you are fat because you eat too much then it IS "some sort of special priviledge".

By your logic, anyone who is in a wheel chair due to an accident that was their fault does not deserve a handicapped parking space.

J.H.C.

Okay. I am OBVIOUSLY talking about lazy-asses who didn't get an accident, and are overweight because they EAT TOO MUCH and DON'T EXCERSIZE.


Better?????
 

TC2181

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Nov 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Being severly overweight is often due to a "lack of self-control", or depression...a serious psychological disorder. Not all fat people are "lazy".

lack of self control??

I tag those both as LAZY. You can coin a term to it all day long, but it's lazy.

A pituitary gland disorder I understand;


depressed so then you eat? Maybe walking from the very farthest parking space to the door will help you out, rather than park in the front.

Most severly obese people can't make that walk. They'd likely keel over from running out of breath. You try putting an extra 300 lbs of weight around your body and see how you operate.

I would never EVER let myself get so overweight I couldn't walk down a sidewalk. EVER. If you do, you have an issue with self control that parking 8ft from the door WILL NOT HELP.


At the VERY most, they should be issues handicapped parking stickers on the premise that they lose weight, (as in, 5-10lbs++) and when/if they don't meet that goal the sticker won't be renewed.

Ok, I can see i'm dealing with an immature punk who thinks he is invincible. I'm sure noone at your age would think they definately will become obese, or an alchoholic, or addicted to drugs. Of course parking 8 feet from the door will not help them. Parking further from the door could hurt them, or kill them.

Also..why are you so irritated, or worried with them? I don't see many severely obese people over the age of 70.
 

DrPizza

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Personally, I can't figure out handicapped parking places in the first place. For example - at the mall - a handicapped parking place will save someone what? 100 feet? Then what do they do once they reach the mall doors - hover?! No, they have to walk about 1/2 a mile or more in the mall to go from store to store. What difference does 100 feet make?

I spent 8 years working with the handicapped - mentally and physically handicapped adults. Our agency did not want us using handicapped parking places - and this includes for people in wheelchairs. We had to park toward the outer perimeter of the parking lots - where people park their cars away from other cars to avoid scratches. Then, we unloaded the wheelchairs there. There's no reason that most people in wheelchairs can't get some exercise too. (forgive me if I sound insensitive - I'm not) I'm sure there are some conditions that make it appropriate to be parked closer, but I disagree with most of the common reasons to get a handicapped sticker. Suppose my wife or one of my kids is injured in an accident and winds up in a wheelchair. I don't feel that society would owe me a closer parking spot so I could help push their wheelchair a shorter distance. I would agree with the closer parking spots, however, in the winter when there's a lot of slush, snow, etc. which provides a barrier to getting to the doors.
 

OutHouse

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man you guys are still Jr high punks. Do you enjoy putting other people down? do you get off on it?

How do you know if these people dont have some kind of medical condition where its impossible for them to loose weight? umm diabetes is one...

It really pisses me off that all some of you in here are so callous and rude. What if one of these fat people were your mother? would you call her a fat ass behind her back?

So this thread got started by a computer geek who is pissed because some fat person parks closer to the door than he can. SO F*CKING WHAT!!! damn get a fricken life and stop worrying about others.

se7enty7, do you know the whole story about your fat co-worker? if not STFU!!!
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: TC2181
Being severly overweight is often due to a "lack of self-control", or depression...a serious psychological disorder. Not all fat people are "lazy".

lack of self control??

I tag those both as LAZY. You can coin a term to it all day long, but it's lazy.

A pituitary gland disorder I understand;


depressed so then you eat? Maybe walking from the very farthest parking space to the door will help you out, rather than park in the front.
Most severly obese people can't make that walk. They'd likely keel over from running out of breath. You try putting an extra 300 lbs of weight around your body and see how you operate.
Quite seriously, I'd probably die by then. Then again, I probably shouldn't have lived this long, much less be getting better.
In any case, if you got 300lb for a good reason--IE, doc says you've got a thyroid or some-other-thingie problem, you need that close space.
 
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