This song has the coolest beat of any song. Ever.

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BUTCH1

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It's got some interesting quirks, very memorable, but...really? Best beat ever? It's fairly basic at the end of the day.

I'd have a tough time picking a best beat EVER, but the lilting asymetric 10/8 - 12/8 flip-flops in Sufjan Stevens's "The Tallest Man, The Broadest Shoulders" is probably one of the best beats cooked up in a long time in any musical genre. It is so unforgettable that the second I saw the words "coolest beat" it immediately came to my mind. It's driving and energizing, complex and challenging without going over the top.

That was horrible...
 

Jzero

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LOL...I guess if it's not good for fist-pumping it's not good for ATOT!

OK @Butch1 and @BunnyFubbles (or anyone) what's good about Closer To God, what's bad about The Tallest Man, The Broadest Shoulders? Closer To God has a memorable bassline - especially during the chorus, but otherwise, "the beat" is simply a straight 2/4 drone. It's really not much of a beat at all when you get right down to it.

TTMTBS has a complex meter, the interweaving of the horns on the quarter notes and the woodwinds on the eights and the backup singers over top of all that.

"The beat" in Closer To God is a vdrum and synth bass, force-fed to you a quarter note at a time. You've actually heard all it has to offer 1/3 of the way through the song. This is really supposed to be the coolest beat of any song ever? You can find similar stuff all over industrial and electronic music...what sets this one apart?

"The beat" in TTMTBS is no less than 10 musicians/singers and is like an aural tapestry where you spot something new every time you listen to it. I'm not saying it's the coolest beat of any song ever...but it's definitely an amazing piece of work.

I'd be interested to hear objectively why it's "horrible" by any stretch of the imagination. I don't have any great love for industrial music but I'll at least give credit where it's due and explain my reasoning.
 

KeithTalent

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Nice picks. I'm a huge Shadow fan. I used to go to the record store on the cover of endtroducing all the time. It smelled horrible in there because the roof leaked like a sieve when it rained but they had wild amounts of cool old albums in there. They closed it down a couple years back, it's too bad.

I listened to that album over and over and over when it first came out. I could not get enough of it. I still love it, particularly tracks like Midnight in a Perfect World; just brilliant.

KT
 
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LOL...I guess if it's not good for fist-pumping it's not good for ATOT!

OK @Butch1 and @BunnyFubbles (or anyone) what's good about Closer To God, what's bad about The Tallest Man, The Broadest Shoulders? Closer To God has a memorable bassline - especially during the chorus, but otherwise, "the beat" is simply a straight 2/4 drone. It's really not much of a beat at all when you get right down to it.

TTMTBS has a complex meter, the interweaving of the horns on the quarter notes and the woodwinds on the eights and the backup singers over top of all that.

"The beat" in Closer To God is a vdrum and synth bass, force-fed to you a quarter note at a time. You've actually heard all it has to offer 1/3 of the way through the song. This is really supposed to be the coolest beat of any song ever? You can find similar stuff all over industrial and electronic music...what sets this one apart?

"The beat" in TTMTBS is no less than 10 musicians/singers and is like an aural tapestry where you spot something new every time you listen to it. I'm not saying it's the coolest beat of any song ever...but it's definitely an amazing piece of work.

I'd be interested to hear objectively why it's "horrible" by any stretch of the imagination. I don't have any great love for industrial music but I'll at least give credit where it's due and explain my reasoning.

That's all fine and good, but the end result is a bit more cacophony when taken as a whole (I'd actually say the same thing about Closer as well, some of those effects are just fucking annoying and get old really quick on headphones). I think by the very nature, people think of beat as simple, and so having to pick that apart just doesn't appeal. If you have to think about the beat, then its not what people are really looking for. It should be simple and memorable and have you tapping your toe without noticing.

I'm not saying the one you posted is good or bad. I didn't especially like it, but I didn't really feel like listening to the whole thing and analyzing it.

A couple that I like. Not saying they're the best or even my favorite, but just thought of them.

Shining Star - Earth, Wind, and Fire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwc0AW67CmA
Rubberband Man - The Spinners http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDCvO2sZlj4 [found a better version]
 
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