This temp normal?

[Blargh]

Ok i just recently put together this computer, using an asus P4T533 mobo, 1.8A p4 northwood and im using a volcano7+ hsf with arctic silver 3, currently have one 80 mm exhaust case fan going (with another 80mm exhaust and an 80mm intake to be added shortly) and the intake and exhaust fans in my enermax whisper 350watt psu. Ok now im running a program that came with the mobo called Asus Probe 2 to get my temp and at idle i was getting around 35 degrees C and while runnin prime95 to test full load its gone up to as high as 44 degrees C (with the board itself reading at around 37 idle and 41 load). Now i kno that the Arctic silver 3 paste takes a day or 2 to get worked in or something so that might take the temp down a bit ( comp first went online at around 9pm est last night). Now as im fairly new to this i was wondering if this is a normal temp?

 

[imported_zenwhen]

Thats right on the money, dude. Good temps.

 

[SS4Goku]

yup, thats pretty good temp.

 

[BtSnake]

Just be glad you dont have my 1.8a sitting at 50-51c idle. Sucks to be me =(. Your temps look good.

 

[Blargh]

Ech sorry bro.... what kind of cooler ya using if its that hot at idle? i mean i thought mine was pretty hot considering i dont have an intake fan and only one exhaust... at least till friday anyway.... adding 2 thermaltake 80mm smart case fans (one for ecxhaust and one for intake).... 5000rpms... wheeee and should have enuf 3-4 pin calbes to power that other panaflow 80mm case fan (i currently have one of them as my only exhaust fan outside of my psu) . Anyone have any idea what my temp should be with this kind of cooling?

 

[cr4pz0r]

Originally posted by: BtSnake
Just be glad you dont have my 1.8a sitting at 50-51c idle. Sucks to be me =(. Your temps look good.

If you have your P4 Northwood idling that hot, the cooler that you put on that CPU must be really crappy! Even a retail-boxed Intel heatsink will keep that temperature well under that.

 

[jdurg]

Some of the chips just run hotter. I have a 1.8A and with the stock heatsink and AS3, my idle temps were around 52 degrees, and full load was 67-68 degrees. With a Thermaltake P4 478 Volcano with AS3, my idle temps were around 46 degrees, but my load temps were still at 67-68 degrees. With my current Cooler Master IHC-H71 heatsink and AS3, my idle temperatures are around 48 degrees and my load temps are around 64 degrees. So some of the chips just seem to run hot, or some of the motherboards out there report a higher temperature. (Or on the other hand, some motherboards could be reading a lower temperature.) But the temperature does not matter one bit with your cpu. If your CPU idles at fifty degrees and has a load temperature around 65 degrees and is completely stable, then the temperature doesn't matter. If your CPU idles at 35 degrees and has a load temperature of 47 degrees, but you have to keep upping the voltage in order to keep it stable, then does having that low temperature really mean anything? (I believe that it is the higher voltage over the long run that will kill a cpu, not the heat.) Heat can only kill the CPU if the heat gets out of control and fries the chip. If my physical-chemistry memory serves me correct, semi-conductors actually run slightly faster at higher temperatures than at lower temperatures. That's why overheating will kill a cpu. It will heat up, and run faster which will generate more heat, which will make it run faster, etc. etc. until the chip melts. That's why a heatsink is important. It tranfers that excess heat away from the cpu. So if your computer is running stable, then don't worry about the temperatures. My temperatures might seem kind of high, but my computer is rock-stable and runs perfectly fine. (I'll be putting an air-conditioner in my room as soon as a new circuit is installed in the wall, and that should lower my temps quite a bit. But I won't be overclocking any more simply because once I'm not running the AC, I don't want to have to downclock it. lol)

 

[DinoGucci]

hmmm didnt you know that the temperature affects the stability of your system??
ofcourse it matters mang!


dino

 

[Blargh]

jdurg..... are you running your p4 at its stock 1.8 clock speed? or are you overclocking it? And im still confused on these temp readings..... ive seen some ppl saying that p4s of a higher clock then mine (with the same volcano7+ heatsinc, testing with asus probe 2 just like me) running at a lower temp then mine is..... ive also had someone tell me that asus probe is wildly inaccurate and that my temp should be higher... gah i dunno what to believe.... i just wanna kno now if after i add my case fans ill be able to get that oc to 2.4ghz stably...

 

[SupermanCK]

read my sig....
asus probe is as accurate as your mobo temp in bios...and mbm is the same exact reading for me too...just not the 12V line...mbm report lower ~0.5V
What fan speed setting are you running at Blargh?
As for ppls with higher temp...it might be your motherboard reading it wrong...MSI is known to be one of them...
If any of your had read thur Intel Spec...1.6A and 1.8A tops out at around 65C...no more than 70C.
And those higher temp people finding out it's not their MOBO...try reinstalled heatsink and reapply a THIN layer of AC3...I had mine redone and i notice my temp drop about 3-4C from the first time i installed it...I notice there were quite a bit excess AC3 push out on the side of the CPU...so there you have...just remember...More Thermal Grease Doesn't Mean Better Cooling so apply the JUST RIGHT AMOUNT.

 

[Blargh]

Superman CK im runnin my volcano at the high speed setting, which asus probe is reporting to be hovering in the 6200 rpms area. So whats a normal idle for my 1.8a then? As Asus Probe is telling me around 37 C (which should hopefully drop once my TT 80mm smart fans arrive on friday) for cpu and around 39 for the mobo itself (these ratings drop to 32C and 35C respectavly when i turn my ac on) whereas MBM (if im reading it right) is telling me around 50 C idle and 37 mobo (and tese figs dont drop nearly as much with my AC on... maybe 2 C ), which should i believe?

And regarding the thermal paste i did apply a thin layer , did just as the arcticsilver website said..... a tiny frop on the cpu (half the size of a grain of rice) and spread it with a razorblade ,also followed their reccomendation on smearing the bottom of the heatsinc first to fill in any scratches the heatsinc may have on its surface, then whipping it clean with a lint free cloth. And im 99% sure i have everythign seated correctly so it should be working optimally. Tho i do remember reading something on the arctic silver website about how AS3 takes 72 hours to work itself in and create good thermal conductivity... now i built this comp this ast weekend so its approaching 72 hours now.... should i be expecting a temperature drop here? Or is that 72 hour thing a load of crap?

 

[jdurg]

Blargh, sorry it took me so long to get back to the board, but my job-search is taking up a lot of time. My 1.8A is right now running at 2.52 GHz, so I am overclocking it. However, the higher temperatures seemed to be there even if I wasn't overclocking.

BtSnake, I know how ya feel. It gets really frustrating hearing people say that they feel uneasy because their P4 1.6A overclocked to 2.7 GHz is running at 42 C idle and 53 C under full load. ARRGGHHHH!!!!! I'm beginning to wonder if my MSI board is reporting temperatures too high, or if the majority of other people's boards are reading temperatures too low. (Although I'm thinking that the MSI board is reading things a bit high, because if I take the side off of my case, the temperatures don't drop at all.) But in the end, I can't complain too much. I paid 180 bucks for a 1.8 GHz chip, and now I have it running at 2.52 GHz which would now cost me about 600 bucks.

 

[SteelCityFan]

Originally posted by: cr4pz0r

Originally posted by: BtSnake
Just be glad you dont have my 1.8a sitting at 50-51c idle. Sucks to be me =(. Your temps look good.

If you have your P4 Northwood idling that hot, the cooler that you put on that CPU must be really crappy! Even a retail-boxed Intel heatsink will keep that temperature well under that.

Ah, one of the type of posts I just love. His CPU runs hotter than someone else's, so he is either doing something wrong, or is using cheap components.

It does not work that way...

Many people will tell you that they believe that to supply demand for lower speed northwoods, Intel began selling chips that could have been rated much higher as 1.6/1.8 chips. If you got one of these, your CPU temp would likely be lower than if you got one that would not have made it at a higher speed grade.

I have also heard people say that they have used the same chip in 2 different motherboards (The same model, but different board... for ex 2 TH7-II's), and have gotten two different temp readings.. different by as much as 10-15 degrees.


My 1.8A runs about 45/53. I have tried everything... the thermal pad, AS3, leaving the case open, etc. Nothing has helped much. I got one of the oens that would not have been able ot be sold as a higher speed grade.