This week in World of Batpoop, Kanye decalres "Slavery was a Choice."

[pcgeek11]

400 years? What a dumb ass. I think slavery has been around a bit longer than that... Like since day one people have been making slaves of others.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

Kanye definitely needs a publicist to edit his shit before he says it. Playing devil's advocate here, he might have meant that he doesn't understand how blacks were enslaved for 400 years without revolting to end slavery. And that by not doing so he believes many blacks must have accepted that they could do nothing about their enslavement. And in his wacky mind that = choosing to remain a slave.

I don't know how valid his point of view is. Sounds ignorant at best because I'm sure "rising up and throwing off the shackles of bondage" must not have been very easy to do. I'm sure the horrors of slavery were a darn good motivation to escape if possible and nobody would choose to be a slave if they could help it.

More or less that is what he's saying. It's the old "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees" idea that lots of revolutionaries believed in. For those that have followed Kanye's antics in the past, his belief stems from the fact that he believes that he is a visionary and transcendental talent. He pulled himself out of poverty by his boot straps because he is great. Kanye believes in Kanye alone, like he says the only person he agrees with 100% is himself. He probably believes that he would have caused an armed insurrection if he was alive during those times and that everyone else "chose" to live a slave rather than die free.

Ultimately it's all bullshit, and it shows how far fame and success have changed his perspective. He's reached a point of narcissism and ego that he actually relates to Trump... that's all that really needs to be said.

 

[Puffnstuff]

400 years? What a dumb ass. I think slavery has been around a bit longer than that... Like since day one people have been making slaves of others.

Shonuff have and I seem to remember many bible stories that attest to that fact. Seems that the Egyptians are some of the greatest offenders in this area.

 

[HomerJS]

Kanye and the Duck Dynasty guy would get along. One thinks slavery was a choice, the other thinks since slaves were singing it means they were happy so being enslaved wasn't so bad.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Kanye and the Duck Dynasty guy would get along. One thinks slavery was a choice, the other thinks since slaves were singing it means they were happy so being enslaved wasn't so bad.

Again, given the choice, many would have refused to be not slaves. Such is human psychology. To be not a slave would have been terrifying. Please see the earlier post about Dostoevsky and the grand inquisitor's charge....

 

[Younigue]

I honestly can't see slavery denial as being a big driver of sales unless his people think that the white supremacist market is worth burning all of the other demographics to go after.

Oh I didn't suggest it was a brilliant plan on his part. I believe he has overstepped and I am hoping he has ruined his career. I've never seen Kanye as a "genius" artist and I've always thought he was (still is) a complete moron.

 

[Linux23]

I'm gonna let you finish, but I just gotta say that Blacks had no Unemployment during Slavery!

well considering that they weren't really paid any money, maybe we can call it a Unpaid Internship work program?

 

[Noah Abrams]

So many people who have spent a long time in prison do not ever want to be freed. Some among those who get freed completely lose it.

We have millions and millions of people in this country, including very educated ones, who want to hand more and more of their freedoms to the government (which is just one authority, it could be any person or entity). The point is, freedom is a terrible and very difficult thing. Its a deep topic and perhaps not suited to online discussion.

 

[Jhhnn]

So many people who have spent a long time in prison do not ever want to be freed. Some among those who get freed completely lose it.

We have millions and millions of people in this country, including very educated ones, who want to hand more and more of their freedoms to the government (which is just one authority, it could be any person or entity). The point is, freedom is a terrible and very difficult thing. Its a deep topic and perhaps not suited to online discussion.

What freedoms do you speak of, kimosabe?

 

[purbeast0]

Kanye is a marketing genius. I had no clue he had new music just come out but due to all of this controversy with him, I've now read about his new album on here as well as hearing them talk about it on the sports radio show I listen to in the morning. Sure it's all been negative press in the methods that it was presented to me, but in the end, it let me know there is a new album out. And it has all of these outlets talking about him that don't normally talk about him. Smart play on his part.

 

[Stokely]

Kanye figures any fans he loses will more than be made up for by the Ted Nugent fans that will flock to him.

Psst, Kanye: if they ask you to rap at a campfire rally, might want to avoid the "snipe hunting with a rope" event.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Who is Kanye? Another victim of that affluence disease like the drunk driving homicidal kid from Texas?

 

[Phokus]

Kanye will make an excellent republican candidate if he keeps this up.

 

[Victorian Gray]

2 albums supposedly being released in June. I'd say that he timed this about as well as it could be.

 

[Stokely]

So many people who have spent a long time in prison do not ever want to be freed. Some among those who get freed completely lose it.

We have millions and millions of people in this country, including very educated ones, who want to hand more and more of their freedoms to the government (which is just one authority, it could be any person or entity). The point is, freedom is a terrible and very difficult thing. Its a deep topic and perhaps not suited to online discussion.

Yeah, and kidnapping victims grow to love their kidnappers, aka the Stockholm Syndrome. If you could ask potential slaves, convicts and kidnap victims BEFORE they become such, what do you think their answer would be if given the choice between X and freedom? Freedom is a terrible thing, but how many people will give it up to someone trying to violently take it? Prison is not a good comparison to slavery or kidnapping, since it's a punishment handed out by a court for actions knowingly taken by the prisoner.

 

[Indus]

400 years? What a dumb ass. I think slavery has been around a bit longer than that... Like since day one people have been making slaves of others.

I'm pretty sure making slaves of others is a CHOICE!

 

[pcgeek11]

I'm pretty sure making slaves of others is a CHOICE!

Who said that it wasn't?

He was talking about slaves for 400 years... Slaves have been had for thousands of years.

 

[MajinCry]

Who said that it wasn't?

He was talking about slaves for 400 years... Slaves have been had for thousands of years.

Indus is pointing out that you took an unimportant point and tried to run with it, rather than contend with his statement that the US' slaves perpetuated their own enslavement.

To draw a parallel, it's like being outraged over Bill Cosby's hypocrisy, rather than his drug-raping.

 

[pcgeek11]

Indus is pointing out that you took an unimportant point and tried to run with it, rather than contend with his statement that the US' slaves perpetuated their own enslavement.

To draw a parallel, it's like being outraged over Bill Cosby's hypocrisy, rather than his drug-raping.

No, that isn't what Indus pointed out.

I didn't hear him say anything about US Slaves in particular. If he did it is even more retarded as the USA hasn't even existed for 400 years.

I took the only point in any of this: We all know that Kanye is retarded anyway, nobody should give a good damn what he says.

 

[MajinCry]

I didn't hear him say anything about US Slaves in particular. And the USA hasn't even existed for 400 years.

I took the only point in any of this: We all know that Kanye is retarded anyway, nobody should give a good damn what he says.

Ah, but slavery perpetrated by settlers and colonists, upon the American continent, certainly has. That goes way back to the days of Casas and Columbus.

 

[pcgeek11]

Ah, but slavery perpetrated by settlers and colonists, upon the American continent, certainly has. That goes way back to the days of Casas and Columbus.

Ah, but slavery has been around as long as mankind. On all continents.

Thanks for making my point, the 400 years comment was as stupid as you trying to make it all about the US.

 

[MajinCry]

Ah, but slavery has been around as long as mankind. On all continents.

Thanks for making my point, the 400 years comment was as stupid as you trying to make it all about the US.

Digging your feet into the ground, doubling down, and a persecution complex to boot. Stay classy, gramps.

 

[Jhhnn]

400 years? What a dumb ass. I think slavery has been around a bit longer than that... Like since day one people have been making slaves of others.

If the subject is black slavery in the New World it dates from the early 1500's. Old World diseases were so lethal to Native Americans that that the Spanish were importing black slaves into the Caribbean in order to have many slaves at all-

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...our-understanding-american-history-180964873/

You're right that slavery is much older than that but most of it wasn't race based.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Yeah, and kidnapping victims grow to love their kidnappers, aka the Stockholm Syndrome. If you could ask potential slaves, convicts and kidnap victims BEFORE they become such, what do you think their answer would be if given the choice between X and freedom? Freedom is a terrible thing, but how many people will give it up to someone trying to violently take it? Prison is not a good comparison to slavery or kidnapping, since it's a punishment handed out by a court for actions knowingly taken by the prisoner.

People were born into slavery here, generations of them. If that is what you are born into and all that you have ever known and experienced, human psychology would dictate that many would refuse freedom.

Also there were two kinds of slaves. The ones in houses and the ones in plantations. Malcom X described the differences between them and the analogy to current times

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So you have two types of Negro. The old type and the new type. Most of you know the old type. When you read about him in history during slavery he was called "Uncle Tom." He was the house Negro. And during slavery you had two Negroes. You had the house Negro and the field Negro.

The house Negro usually lived close to his master. He dressed like his master. He wore his master's second-hand clothes. He ate food that his master left on the table. And he lived in his master's house--probably in the basement or the attic--but he still lived in the master's house.

So whenever that house Negro identified himself, he always identified himself in the same sense that his master identified himself. When his master said, "We have good food," the house Negro would say, "Yes, we have plenty of good food." "We" have plenty of good food. When the master said that "we have a fine home here," the house Negro said, "Yes, we have a fine home here." When the master would be sick, the house Negro identified himself so much with his master he'd say, "What's the matter boss, we sick?" His master's pain was his pain. And it hurt him more for his master to be sick than for him to be sick himself. When the house started burning down, that type of Negro would fight harder to put the master's house out than the master himself would.

But then you had another Negro out in the field. The house Negro was in the minority. The masses--the field Negroes were the masses. They were in the majority. When the master got sick, they prayed that he'd die. [Laughter] If his house caught on fire, they'd pray for a wind to come along and fan the breeze.

If someone came to the house Negro and said, "Let's go, let's separate," naturally that Uncle Tom would say, "Go where? What could I do without boss? Where would I live? How would I dress? Who would look out for me?" That's the house Negro. But if you went to the field Negro and said, "Let's go, let's separate," he wouldn't even ask you where or how. He'd say, "Yes, let's go." And that one ended right there.

So now you have a twentieth-century-type of house Negro. A twentieth-century Uncle Tom. He's just as much an Uncle Tom today as Uncle Tom was 100 and 200 years ago. Only he's a modern Uncle Tom. That Uncle Tom wore a handkerchief around his head. This Uncle Tom wears a top hat. He's sharp. He dresses just like you do. He speaks the same phraseology, the same language. He tries to speak it better than you do. He speaks with the same accents, same diction. And when you say, "your army," he says, "our army." He hasn't got anybody to defend him, but anytime you say "we" he says "we." "Our president," "our government," "our Senate," "our congressmen," "our this and our that." And he hasn't even got a seat in that "our" even at the end of the line. So this is the twentieth-century Negro. Whenever you say "you," the personal pronoun in the singular or in the plural, he uses it right along with you. When you say you're in trouble, he says, "Yes, we're in trouble."

But there's another kind of Black man on the scene. If you say you're in trouble, he says, "Yes, you're in trouble." [Laughter] He doesn't identify himself with your plight whatsoever.

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http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html

 

[WelshBloke]

Kanye is a marketing genius.

He really isnt. He's a dumb arse that can't express himself with any clarity.