Those heartbeat laws (abortion).... yeah this is what happens.

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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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This entire thing is bordering on Sharia law. If I was a female, I'd deeply consider moving out of the state on principal.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-CH8dhfrU6HMwc0z3wLvpaC310gBELT2PwMAJ5t1YIkqA

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HB 481 would also have consequences for women who get abortions from doctors or miscarry. A woman who seeks out an illegal abortion from a health care provider would be a party to murder, subject to life in prison. And a woman who miscarries because of her own conduct—say, using drugs while pregnant—would be liable for second-degree murder, punishable by 10 to 30 years’ imprisonment. Prosecutors may interrogate women who miscarry to determine whether they can be held responsible; if they find evidence of culpability, they may charge, detain, and try these women for the death of their fetuses.


Even women who seek lawful abortions out of state may not escape punishment. If a Georgia resident plans to travel elsewhere to obtain an abortion, she may be charged with conspiracyto commit murder, punishable by 10 years’ imprisonment. An individual who helps a woman plan her trip to get an out-of-state abortion, or transports her to the clinic, may also be charged with conspiracy. These individuals, after all, are “conspiring” to end of the life of a “person” with “full legal recognition” under Georgia law. "
I for one will make a point of never setting foot in Georgia. IMO, Georgians should immediately plan to pack up and leave. Those that don't are to be pitied.
 
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Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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If I understand you correctly you're saying that a pro-life stance is based on trying to ensure that if someone rapes someone else and fathers a child, it is allowed to survive?
That's exactly what's happening as the result of 'pro-life' policies, isn't it?
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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As someone that has lived through a late miscarriage, I really hope all those Republican MEN that wrote and voted for this get their nuts ripped off in a rusty bicycle chain.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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As someone that has lived through a late miscarriage, I really hope all those Republican MEN that wrote and voted for this get their nuts ripped off in a rusty bicycle chain.

I’m thinking if we go down this path that getting a woman pregnant who didn’t want to be would be a felony. (I’m not even talking rape here. I’m talking the husband got drunk and forgot a condom).

Make it punishable by mandatory surgical sterilization with a fine equal to the cost of the surgery.

The surgery would be done in prison where the man would be kept until the surgery was complete.

I figure once enough of these irresponsible guys are clipped it will make a vas deferens in the number of involuntarily pregnant women.

Or we could keep the government out of these personal issues.
 

HurleyBird

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Apr 22, 2003
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Ohio’s new “heartbeat bill” means that the 11-year-old girl will likely be forced to carry the child to birth, regardless of the fact that she was raped.

This sounds like a case of [citation needed] if I've ever heard of one. What a stupid thing to even speculate about. Surely, there must be provisions that take into account pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother, yes? Pregnancy is inherently risky as heck for an 11 year old and based on that alone, no one is going to force her to go to term. Use your heads, people.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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This shit is made even better by laws that allow pharmacists or doctors to refuse to fill or write prescriptions they have religious objections to like birth control.
 
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This sounds like a case of [citation needed] if I've ever heard of one. What a stupid thing to even speculate about. Surely, there must be provisions that take into account pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother, yes? Pregnancy is inherently risky as heck for an 11 year old and based on that alone, no one is going to force her to go to term. Use your heads, people.
well shit lucky for this rape victim that she is just young enough that she might be spared having to endure carrying a child to term.

So what age does the rape victim have to be to make this law acceptable?
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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During every election abortion becomes a major topic, however never in the past has such a threat to safe and legal access been so real.
This election will determine the future of abortion law. Most defiantly will decide the future.
And this is why Donald Trump was elected and why his people stick with him.
#1, The abortion issue.
#2, The US Supreme Court.
Funny thing, down deep most of these right wing Christian republicans want to protect safe and legal access to abortion as much as the most pro-choice liberal. They just don't realize they share that in common.
If abortion were made illegal or strictly limited, and after that reality sunk in, those same right wing Christian republican women would be the first to shout FOUL.
They pretend they are pro-life, but just watch as little Susie tells old mom that she was knocked up by little Billy down the street.
Both of them sixteen.
Well there goes any hope for Susie's future.
And there goes any hope for little Billy's medical career.
No time for college.....
Little Billy and little Susie will be way too busy working entry-level jobs and raising their kid.

Might sound like an acceptable trade-off, career for family, but not to little Susie's old pro-lifer mom.
Or to little Billy's old pro-lifer dad.
Mom and dad had high hopes for Billy and Susie, and certainly not as a family nor include raising any kid.
And while the rest of America is denied access to abortion, these wealthy families will know exactly where to go and how to get what they desperately need for little Susie and little Billy, an abortion.
And... that huge sigh of relief for little Billy and more so for little Billy's mom and dad.
This is how it works, or will work if they get their way and abortion rights are overturned.
They will still have their access to abortion should the need arise, but low income single women will no longer have that access.
As usual, creating laws that only apply to everyone else but never to themselves.
After all, Billy wants to be a doctor, and Billy's dad is counting on that and only on that.

If this were a perfect world and republican pro-lifers had a soul, pro-life would go hand in hand with financial support.
Pro-lifers would have their restricted abortion access, and those poor single mothers would get all the financial help they will ever need to house and raise their kid.
Those kids who pro-lifers insisted be brought to term.
But that isn't the world we live in, now is it....?
In this world we live in, the pro-lifers want to force women to give birth, then the same pro-lifers refuse to cough up one dime in financial support i.e. via taxes. They rather force those women to give birth, then label those mothers as welfare whores. As trash. As lowlifes. Forcing those single mothers and their kid into poverty.
After all.... that is not their problem, it is the mothers problem. Right?
 
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dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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This sounds like a case of [citation needed] if I've ever heard of one. What a stupid thing to even speculate about. Surely, there must be provisions that take into account pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother, yes? Pregnancy is inherently risky as heck for an 11 year old and based on that alone, no one is going to force her to go to term. Use your heads, people.
you don't know conservative christians very well do you.

https://www.news.com.au/world/south...n/news-story/f93d964a9c3a510ee2a806e4a1b8825c
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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This sounds like a case of [citation needed] if I've ever heard of one. What a stupid thing to even speculate about. Surely, there must be provisions that take into account pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother, yes? Pregnancy is inherently risky as heck for an 11 year old and based on that alone, no one is going to force her to go to term. Use your heads, people.

Lol...this guy.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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This sounds like a case of [citation needed] if I've ever heard of one. What a stupid thing to even speculate about. Surely, there must be provisions that take into account pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother, yes? Pregnancy is inherently risky as heck for an 11 year old and based on that alone, no one is going to force her to go to term. Use your heads, people.
Her rape was part of God's plan, why would we want to interfere?
 

Paratus

Lifer
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This sounds like a case of [citation needed] if I've ever heard of one. What a stupid thing to even speculate about. Surely, there must be provisions that take into account pregnancies that endanger the life of the mother, yes? Pregnancy is inherently risky as heck for an 11 year old and based on that alone, no one is going to force her to go to term. Use your heads, people.

Well in South America the Catholic Church, trying to stop an abortion, excommunicated the doctors who were to perform an abortion on a 9 year old who was pregnant with twins after being raped by her step father.

But don’t worry about this girl. If the child and fetus dies in child birth we can charge the rapist with murder and kill him by lethal injection as Jesus intended. That’s a pro-life win right there.
 
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SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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while at the same time screaming at her that she better not expect any help once she has that child.

She better not need any help having that child. They are stanchly against any type of socialized medicine as well remember.

I would like to know how they plan to pay for all these unwanted pregnancies.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Didn't reproductive age women have one of the lowest turnouts of all groups in 2016 election? With a tie breaking SCOTUS seat vacant and on the line.
Now it's time to pay the piper.
 
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She better not need any help having that child. They are stanchly against any type of socialized medicine as well remember.

I would like to know how they plan to pay for all these unwanted pregnancies.
Pfffft. Not their problem. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, moocher. This was your choi.... oh wait a sec.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Alabama and Georgia heartbeat bills, for example, have rape and incest exceptions.

The GA law requires a police report to be filed for an exemption for rape/incest. So tell me, how would someone like the 11 year old in OH ever go file a police report concerning incest? Don't you think that's a bit of a far fetched scenario?
 
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thraashman

Lifer
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While the proponents are referring to it as a "fetal heartbeat bill" the actual language refers to "embryonic or fetal cardiac activity". One of the reasons for this is that cardiac activity is not the same as an actual heartbeat. In fact a fetus doesn't develop what we consider a heart until about 20 weeks, but there is cardiac activity earlier than that.

Personally as a Georgia resident I think we should tackle Governor Kemp and remove one of his kidneys to give to a patient in need of a transplant. I wonder how he'd feel about removal of bodily autonomy for the purpose of saving a life after that.
 
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DarthKyrie

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The GA law requires a police report to be filed for an exemption for rape/incest. So tell me, how would someone like the 11 year old in OH ever go file a police report concerning incest? Don't you think that's a bit of a far fetched scenario?

These assholes don't give a shit, every life is precious to them. Unless of course, you are female and pregnant, one of those brown icky people, or a Muslim. Lord help you if you are all 3.
 
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