Those of us in the $250 to $350 range have gotten screwed

Xarick

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So now our choices are awesome.
We get to pay $300+ for a 5850 that gets stomped in anything dx11 and is $30+over MSRP
or
We get a super dustbuster.

Rock on.
 

gigahertz20

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So now our choices are awesome.
We get to pay $300+ for a 5850 that gets stomped in anything dx11 and is $30+over MSRP
or
We get a super dustbuster.

Rock on.



Or just buy a Radeon 4890 for fairly cheap and get pretty damn good performance, then wait for DX11 games and the next gen. DX11 video cards to come out and sell the 4890 on eBay making most of your money back.
 

Tempered81

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250 - 350 range gives you a used 4870x2, a 5850 from newegg for $279, a 5870 on froogle for $385, a gtx 285 for <$340, a gtx 470 for $359, and maybe even a used GTX295.

Sounds decent compared to a $900 8800 Ultra black pearl, a $600 HD2900xt, or a $659 GTX280.
 

RockinZ28

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Or use cashback and get a 5850 for ~$264 or a 5870 for ~$350.
Can be expected for a first gen card of a new directx to not do so well in it, especially not the highest tier cards.
 

cbn

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Next generation will be interesting.

1. We need another fab to mix things up.
2. ATI supposedly will be launching a new architecture (new process/new architecture....could it be hot?)
3. Nvidia should tighten up their process technology on Fermi

P.S. I wish ATI could launch a midrange card on 28nm before the rest of their products (like they did with HD4770). But with a new architecture making its debut on 32nm/28nm I imagine this won't happen.
 

Xellos2099

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I am still pretty happy with my GTX 275 and it run starcrfat 2 well, so no reason for me to update yet.
 

Apocalypse23

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Situation 1)If you want to get the most bang for buck future proofing in Dx11, you should look at tri-cross-firing 5850s (new or used).--This setup alone will save you the money needed to get a bigger PSU (I think a 750W should be enough for tri crossfire), also will make your system run cooler (cross-firing the 58xx is more efficient in terms of noise and heat), and also give you great OC ability.

The 5850s are great for tri crossfiring, the 5870s are even better but the difference is minimal so you are better off with the 5850s.

PS- You'll need a decent pcie2.0 board that supports crossfire (16x/8x speeds on two slots, or three slots)....oh and a decent processor, preferably quad core

Situation 2)If you like to play some titles with PhysX and care about noticing it, at the same time would like a card that runs average but is in between a 5850 and a 5870, supports Dx11 and costs a little more, then go ahead with a GTX470-----However this card will hog power, and also require a bigger PSU ( I think..)


Situation 3)If all you play are Dx10 titles, then by all means stick to a Dx10 card that rocks fps on those titles, perhaps getting a used GTX295 isn't a bad idea as well (I think the GTX295 is Nvidia's best card)...or stick with a cheaper and similar performing radeon.
 
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Dark4ng3l

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Is there a tool that any idiot could use that could automatically overclock the 5850 to 5870 levels for you?

I don't think so since most of them seem to be limited in the bios as far as overclocking goes. Maybe try MSI afterburner but I doubt it.
 

MrK6

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Wow, you have the 5850 and you're complaining? You could buy one right now for $280 or for $305 with CoD: MW2 (if that's your thing, $40 value anyway though). There's also regular sales for <$250 if you're vigilant. And the 5850 stomps DX11 games. My friend has a U2711 (2560x1440) and plays BC2 maxed (also with HBAO on and 2xAA) with no problem.
 

zod96

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Or wait for the $50 price drop on the 5850 which is coming...
 

Zebo

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I got a HIS 5850 a month ago for $256 from NE for my brother. You're a fool if you don't think prices will lower soon when 470 is faster and with nV's popularity.
 

Gulkorr

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i would of got a 5850, but i got a killer deal on gtx285 2gb for $170 so i could not pass that up. but the 5850 is a very good card and you pay a little over MSRP but it seems worth it. or if you dont want to spend that much get a 4890
 

MrK6

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I got a HIS 5850 a month ago for $256 from NE for my brother. You're a fool if you don't think prices will lower soon when 470 is faster and with nV's popularity.
Where are you reading that the GTX470 is faster? It's at best on par with the 5850, and sometimes is drastically slower. Prices aren't going to move much, even AMD has said so.
 
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Dunno what you are on about, but there's no dx11 games that the 5850 struggle at besides Metro with DoF on, but all cards struggle with that option.

Thats even if you don't OC it. But why wouldn't you considering the 5850 is identical to the 5870 in GPU and ram specs, so out of the box its almost a sure thing to run at 5870 speeds. If you volt mod it a bit, it will OC by 30% easily.

I regularly play BF:BC2, Dirt 2 and AvP, all butter smooth.
 

james 1

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I don't think that ATI will put the prices down of 5850/5870 because they are still selling well and ATI still can't keep up with demand unless there is a sudden drop in demand for the 5850/5870 and I don't see that happening with 480/470 costing upwards of &#163;400
 

Candymancan21

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Ill keep my 4890 for another year... skip this 58xx generation and probably go to the 6's or something.. I had a 4850 when those came out, then just recently got this 4890 like 4 months ago. It runs everything i play maxed out so im not complaining
 
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