Thoughts about FSP Group (Fortron Source) Everest line?

JEDIYoda

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FSP group does not have the reputation for quality products as other companies like Corsair and Seasinoc even Antec or Ultra or OCZ...

I honestly believe you can do much better unless your location dictates what brands are available!!
 

SparkyJJO

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FSP units aren't bad though, don't jump to that conclusion.

But at that price I'd get the Corsair HX620 for cheaper or a Thermaltake Toughpower, until we know more about this unit.

Hey jonnyguru, another PSU to test.....
 

JEDIYoda

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I don`t think I said anything bad about FSP what I said was-- FSP group does not have the reputation for quality products

Even though around a year ago people were recommending FSP products for people on a budget!

My concern is i see no reviews on the product and as of late IMO there are other just as good PSU`s to recommend even for people on a budget!!

Peace!!
 

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JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: OmniShinzui
Theres two things im looking for: 750 watts or more and Maximum Airflow one can provide (thus why I sorta want modular, but I could also move the cables to other side of motherboard tray...). So, what about Silverstone

Thermaltake Toughpower:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817341008

or OCZ ModXStream:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817153038

or maybe something else on this list:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tion=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=

The newer Thermaltakes like you just listed are nice PSU`s!!!
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=17
Total Score 9

SUMMARY:

In the past, Thermaltake has gotten a lot of grief. They had been known to sell power supplies that were "behind the times" in terms of the ATX standards, but dressed up in a lot of glorious bling giving the power supplies an appeal to the naive. Certainly the best way to shake that old stigma is to release a product that is a no holds barred kick butt power supply. The Toughpower 750W fits that bill with plenty of power, good efficiency, active power factor correction, and solid construction.

This PSU gets a well deserved "jonnyGURU Recommended"

 

tomoyo

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
FSP group does not have the reputation for quality products as other companies like Corsair and Seasinoc even Antec or Ultra or OCZ...

I honestly believe you can do much better unless your location dictates what brands are available!!

I'd group fsp into the same category as antec, ocz, and some ultra for sure. Only corsair and seasonic could be considered "better". Fsp is still perfectly fine for budget users that don't stretch hard...it's certainly possible they have better models out that fix shortcomings, the main being dc output quality it seems. I applaud how fsp came out with some of the first 80plus psu's though.

I'd pick something from this list as it's easier than trying to find a good psu with an unknown reputation(as the everest I see no good review information on):

http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: tomoyo
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
FSP group does not have the reputation for quality products as other companies like Corsair and Seasinoc even Antec or Ultra or OCZ...

I honestly believe you can do much better unless your location dictates what brands are available!!

I'd group fsp into the same category as antec, ocz, and some ultra for sure. Only corsair and seasonic could be considered "better". Fsp is still perfectly fine for budget users that don't stretch hard...it's certainly possible they have better models out that fix shortcomings, the main being dc output quality it seems. I applaud how fsp came out with some of the first 80plus psu's though.
I'd pick something from this list as it's easier than trying to find a good psu with an unknown reputation(as the everest I see no good review information on):

http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103

Not to beat a dead horse to death but...
Just because a PSU is ratd 80+ has no bearing on the quality or workmanship of said PSU!!
Even JonnyGURU sides with me on that!!
I would rather have a PSU that will be work
ing for the long haul than to have a PSU rated 80+ and have to rma it in 6 months.....

Peace!!
 

mervin338

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
FSP group does not have the reputation for quality products as other companies like Corsair and Seasinoc even Antec or Ultra or OCZ...

I honestly believe you can do much better unless your location dictates what brands are available!!

You really don't know what you're talking about at all. FSP has one of the best reputations in the psu business, and furthermore, FSP is the manufacturer that makes many of the best power supplies in the business today - including OCZ. Oh, and they're also the manufacturer of Antec Neo psu's as well. The Antec True Power line is junk though. http://www.pjrc.com/about/rambling/antec.html. Their True Power Series has more problems than you can shake a stick at, and the link I'm providing is just one example. Most of us over at the abit forum hate antec as well and we can give dozens of examples as to why. I'll submit that their newer power supplies might be up to snuff, but their reputation isn't what it used to be. On top of that, Seasonic is the manufacturer that makes many of the Corsair power supplies, which explains their high quality.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: mervin338
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
FSP group does not have the reputation for quality products as other companies like Corsair and Seasinoc even Antec or Ultra or OCZ...

I honestly believe you can do much better unless your location dictates what brands are available!!

You really don't know what you're talking about at all. FSP has one of the best reputations in the psu business, and furthermore, FSP is the manufacturer that makes many of the best power supplies in the business today - including OCZ. Oh, and they're also the manufacturer of Antec Neo psu's as well. --I wouldn`t be to keen on bringing that up...lolThe Antec True Power line is junk though. http://www.pjrc.com/about/rambling/antec.html. Their True Power Series has more problems than you can shake a stick at, and the link I'm providing is just one example. Most of us over at the abit forum hate antec as well and we can give dozens of examples as to why. I'll submit that their newer power supplies might be up to snuff, but their reputation isn't what it used to be. On top of that, Seasonic is the manufacturer that makes many of the Corsair power supplies, which explains their high quality. -- no that diesn`t explain there high quality. When a company approaches Seasonic to manufacture PSU`s for them. A Company has a lot of input into what components are used etc! Seasonic built the PSU trie but Corsair contracted out to Seasonic the specifications as well as anything else that they felt was important!!
Just because a PSU was made by Seasonic or even the FSP group does not mean it is a Seasonic or FSP

I am sorry that you are FSP fan boy....
But amongst the better PSU`s...
Yoy state-- You really don't know what you're talking about at all. FSP has one of the best reputations in the psu business,

yet-- take me to multiple sites where it is recommended over Seasonic...or Corsair or even over the newer Thermaltake or even over the Newer Antec models.

I never said Fortron was crap I just stated and correctly so that you could do much better.

Now lets take a look at the Antec brand......Only after Antec switched over to Seasonic making the Antec brand of PSU has the Antec name become respectable again!!

I am not saying that the problems Antec had in the past were the FSP Groips fault I am saying it interesting that basically when Antec switched to Seasonic there problems for the most part disappeared!
Issues with quality control and quite frankly IMO Antec was cutting corners albeit the wrong corners.

But with that said--- There are many many happy Antec customers who have never had issues with there Antec PSU`s!! -- wonder if he will read this part?
Yet the ones who have had issues in the past have flooded most of the forums that I hang out it in with complaints!

So besides your forum show me where anything made by the FSP group is recommended over th Seasonic brand of PSU`s or Corsair or for that matter the newer Antec models made by Seasonic ir the newer Thermaltake or for that matter the Ultra brand or even OCZ......


 

tomoyo

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The most bizarre aspect of this anti-fsp rant is that Antec was mostly using channelwell for their psus. The old channelwell psus were terrible and a cause for issues with the smartpower/truepower series. FSP was not even involved. Also it should be noted that newer channelwell psus are FAR better, even if still not a great reputation generally.

A number of people recommend the low end fsp units for a cheap, but decent unit that isn't rated incorrectly. I have as well and there are people who are quite happy.
 

JEDIYoda

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I use too as well!! But then again.
people looking for cheap honestly believe that there is such a monster as a cheap PSI with very high efficiency and over 20 amps on the 12v rail that uses quality CAP`s...etc etc.....

Thats why I am more comfortable asking somebody to wait or reprioritize what they are purchasing in order to have more money available for a nice PSU!!

Peace!!
 

MrOblivious

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The Antec NeoHE is built by Seasonic, it is the Antec Basiq's are built by FSP.

The problem with FSP lately is they have gone back to group regulated designs that are having real issues with their DC output. I would generally steer clear of them unless you can find individual modesl that have really been tested and did well at the moment as there are other products in all their categories that do better.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I would rather have a PSU that will be working for the long haul

I don't know how people kill PSUs left and right. I have had old Antec TruePowers that worked for years, including one that is still going in an in-law's computer. I also have a FSP 300W PSU that was AFAIK one of the first PSUs to get a 120mm fan. I bought that one for a socket 370 Tualatin system, back when I first became interested in quiet computing. That PSU is still going strong, though I pulled it from my server a month ago (put in an Antec Phantom). Had to replace the original fan because it seized from probably old age - I kept it clean.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I would rather have a PSU that will be working for the long haul

I don't know how people kill PSUs left and right. I have had old Antec TruePowers that worked for years, including one that is still going in an in-law's computer. I also have a FSP 300W PSU that was AFAIK one of the first PSUs to get a 120mm fan. I bought that one for a socket 370 Tualatin system, back when I first became interested in quiet computing. That PSU is still going strong, though I pulled it from my server a month ago (put in an Antec Phantom). Had to replace the original fan because it seized from probably old age - I kept it clean.

As I hav stated previously--- I know a lot of people who are satisfied Antec customers and who still use Antec today!!

If I need a PSU I would purchase one of the newer Antec`s in a heartbeat!!

Peace!!
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
If I need a PSU I would purchase one of the newer Antec`s in a heartbeat!!

Me too. I bought three EA380, one EA500 and one Quattro 850 recently for really cheap (new). Already sold the EA380W for profit. Might use the EA500 for my main rig when I upgrade.
 
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