The hybrid sonata is butt ass ugly. Its seriously a mishmash of 4-5 different design languages stuffed into an overstyled fishfaced blob.
Why? Being loyal is what caused the downfall of the big 3. They became dependant on patriotism and "Buy American"
Why would thye improve or innovate of they don't have to compete with overseas manufacturers?
If American companies want people to buy their products, they have to supply a superior product. Plain and simple.
If you want the money to stay in America what's more important? The profit go to the company and the rich chare holders earn dividends, or The American works that built the Civic get a paycheck and contribute to the Us economy by spending their paychecks?
Uh, that doesn't make it the consumer's fault for being loyal.Why? Being loyal is what caused the downfall of the big 3. They became dependant on patriotism and "Buy American"
Why would thye improve or innovate of they don't have to compete with overseas manufacturers?
If American companies want people to buy their products, they have to supply a superior product. Plain and simple.
If you want the money to stay in America what's more important? The profit go to the company and the rich chare holders earn dividends, or The American works that built the Civic get a paycheck and contribute to the Us economy by spending their paychecks?
I think the OP should pay close attention to how many gears the car has since it's a little shitbox that needs to stay in the max power area just to pass a car on the highway.
My current car has 4 gears. Gear 2 ends at highway speed and gear 4 is the cruising gear, so passing can only happen in gear 3. As it turns out, gear 3 is far outside of the max power area when traveling at highway speed. Passing any car with my 4 speed is next to impossible. Last summer I had a huge number of cars behind me because I couldn't pass the slow-as-fuck RV that was going 60mph in front of me. :thumbsdown:
My last car was a Honda Civic with a 5 speed manual. Passing could be done in gears 3 or 4. Gear 3 would red line around 130km/h (80mph) which is absolutely perfect for most situations I've encountered. Passing in that car was never a problem :thumbsup:
Someone suggested the Elantra. That thing is either 4 gears auto or 5 manual, so basically it's manual or forget it. Ford Focus is also 4 auto or 5 manual. Chevy Cruze has 6 auto and 6 manual.
Passing is one of those things you can't guess by looking at 0-60 or quarter mile times. You just need to take a test drive on the highway and see how fast you can go from 60-100mph. If it can't go 100, then fuck that car.
I think the OP should pay close attention to how many gears the car has since it's a little shitbox that needs to stay in the max power area just to pass a car on the highway.
My current car has 4 gears. Gear 2 ends at highway speed and gear 4 is the cruising gear, so passing can only happen in gear 3. As it turns out, gear 3 is far outside of the max power area when traveling at highway speed. Passing any car with my 4 speed is next to impossible. Last summer I had a huge number of cars behind me because I couldn't pass the slow-as-fuck RV that was going 60mph in front of me. :thumbsdown:
My last car was a Honda Civic with a 5 speed manual. Passing could be done in gears 3 or 4. Gear 3 would red line around 130km/h (80mph) which is absolutely perfect for most situations I've encountered. Passing in that car was never a problem :thumbsup:
Someone suggested the Elantra. That thing is either 4 gears auto or 5 manual, so basically it's manual or forget it. Ford Focus is also 4 auto or 5 manual. Chevy Cruze has 6 auto and 6 manual.
Passing is one of those things you can't guess by looking at 0-60 or quarter mile times. You just need to take a test drive on the highway and see how fast you can go from 60-100mph. If it can't go 100, then fuck that car.
website still shows 4 auto / 5 manualBZZZZT, wrong again. Elantra is 6sp man/auto, with a comparably powerful engine, and weighs 300-400lbs less. Should pass as easy or easier
Uh, that doesn't make it the consumer's fault for being loyal.
LOL, it does look like an angry fish
website still shows 4 auto / 5 manual
curb weights (manual)
Hyundai Elantra: 2,661 - 2,820
Ford Focus: website doesn't say (wtf??)
Chevrolet Cruze: 3102
Honda Civic: 2630 - 2760
That's a damn heavy car.
The auto manufacturers were the ones that became complacent. It was fine for a while but it was their own damn fault when they didn't improve their product, because consumers DID stop buying them in the end.Yes it does. If you keep buying the same crap over and over again, the manufacturer will know he can keep peddling the same crap.
Businesses work on demand for product. If sales of a particular product fall, they redesign it to make it sell better again. If sales are strong why change? People are buying and not doing a redesign saves you money.
What happened to GM, Ford and Dodge of the 80-90's is they rested on their laurels and didn't think the Japs and their smaller more innovated vehicles would sell, and they were dead wrong.
People not being loyal and "Buying American" is why Dodge, GM, and Ford turned their act around and became competitive again.
may i recommend a Honda Civic? you won't be disappointed. plus, in 5 years it will be worth 3x more than a focus or cruze.
may i recommend a Honda Civic? you won't be disappointed. plus, in 5 years it will be worth 3x more than a focus or cruze.
lol. In Canada, stereotype Indians usually drive Chryslers because they are so cheap. Back when I bought my car, a Dodge Caravan cost less than a Toyota Corolla.Typical indian
Typical indian
I was told by a co-worker that the Cruze drives like a glorified Cobalt. Haven't tried it myself. I'd be more inclined to go with the Focus though. I've driven the Fiestas (the new Focus is basically a supersized one) and I was pleasantly surprised when them.
The Focus will be a bit quicker and more tightly tuned than the current crop of Cruze models, though I would expect GM to use this timing to announce the release of a sportier Cruze model soon.