Do you think they're any worse than build it yourself cabinets from Home Depot/Lowe's?
Yep. I painted and did the trim. Paid for everything else. It was $$ well spent.I did a full kitchen remodel and installed the cabinets myself. Also got my Zodiac quartz countertop thru them although they subbed it out to a local granite company. Any particular questions? Kitchen is coming up on 3 years now and everything has held up fine so far with 3 young kids. Soft close drawers and cabinet doors. Great hardware.
I would do it again. Spent $3500 on the cabinets (got 20% off with a sale) and $4500 on the counter-tops. My kitchen would have been 20 grand if I had it done by someone.
If there is new construction around you, go around and look at the cabinets in them, figure out who built the ones that were built well. I had cabinets quoted a few years back (was going to build my own house, then my job situation changed), you'd be amazed at how affordable high quality cabinets are directly from a local cabinet maker.
The cabinets I was getting were solid cherry fronts, furniture grade plywood everywhere else (no particle board), ball bearing rollers, soft close, etc and they were only about 30% more per cabinet than the POS box cabinets at Lowe's. They were about 1/3 of what kraftmade would've cost and nicer.
If you are looking for the IKEA look, though, it may be hard to get from a local cabinet shop.
I've noticed that construction and remodeling costs in Oklahoma are about the same as Cambodia. Custom homes go for $110 a foot, I don't know how they do it.
This is true. Actually in Tulsa, they are about $80-85/ft, not including land, about 100-105 with land in the average neighborhood. OKC is about $20-25 more per square foot.
Not to mention the houses in Oklahoma are built to a higher trim level than anywhere else I've ever been (except for the lack of basements).
They have to be cutting cost somewhere. $100 a foot won't cover my material cost here in CA.
I bid out a full house here when I was going to be my own builder. I could build at builder level for $68 (construction costs), doing some labor myself. A few upgrades, like nicer carpet, extra fireplace, expensive granite, etc pushed it to about $77. No cut corners, hell Oklahoma even requires all electrical wire to be at least 12 AWG with 20 amp service. In Tulsa all the slabs are post tension, also, OKC is headed that way.
It helps that the Acme brick factory is literally 5 miles from my house, $0.30 per brick delivered.
Of course we don't have to build for earthquake here (yet), so that is some savings over CA, and we don't have CA's labor prices.
Some pictures of what you can get in Tulsa for construction cost of $80-85. http://southernhomesok.com/homes-sunset-hills/photo-gallery/
Edit: The prices I am talking about are on 2200-3400 square foot homes, too. It is easy to spread cost around in a 3000 square foot house, since a square foot in a bedroom costs very little compared to a kitchen.
If there is new construction around you, go around and look at the cabinets in them, figure out who built the ones that were built well. I had cabinets quoted a few years back (was going to build my own house, then my job situation changed), you'd be amazed at how affordable high quality cabinets are directly from a local cabinet maker.
The cabinets I was getting were solid cherry fronts, furniture grade plywood everywhere else (no particle board), ball bearing rollers, soft close, etc and they were only about 30% more per cabinet than the POS box cabinets at Lowe's. They were about 1/3 of what kraftmade would've cost and nicer.
If you are looking for the IKEA look, though, it may be hard to get from a local cabinet shop.
I would do it again. Spent $3500 on the cabinets (got 20% off with a sale) and $4500 on the counter-tops. My kitchen would have been 20 grand if I had it done by someone.
Some pictures of what you can get in Tulsa for construction cost of $80-85. http://southernhomesok.com/homes-sunset-hills/photo-gallery/
Edit: The prices I am talking about are on 2200-3400 square foot homes, too. It is easy to spread cost around in a 3000 square foot house, since a square foot in a bedroom costs very little compared to a kitchen.
Owner cheaped out on the fridge, you need a counter depth fridge.Fridge surround is too small for fridge and looks like the RHS door will hit the wall when you try to open it.
How do you go from $8,000 for materials to $20,000 total? Did somebody really quote you $12,000 for labor?
Owner cheaped out on the fridge, you need a counter depth fridge.
Flooring and appliances?
How do you go from $8,000 for materials to $20,000 total? Did somebody really quote you $12,000 for labor?
I just got a few quotes for my kitchen.... $4,800 for cabinets + sink, $4,400 for granite, $450 for demolition labor, $300 for sink cutout, $1,500 for all other installation labor (no quote for backsplash or hookup labor). Labor portion = $2,250.
Another quote for semi-custom cabinets had labor at $450 for demolition, $150 for sink cutout, $800 for backsplash, $300 for sink and washer hookup, and $1,000 for all other installation ($2,700 total).
I look at those kitchens you linked and some kill me. In what looks like a great house, things stick out like sore thumbs to me.
Fridge surround is too small for fridge and looks like the RHS door will hit the wall when you try to open it.
Sh!tty vent hood (style over functiom) over a cheapo drop in cooktop - for a real cook, these are crap again with the drop in cook top and likely undersized insert vent:
under cabinet lighting installed too close to the wall. should be out towards the front of the cabinets - people spend some decent money on this and should be installed correctly.
I know I am being nit picky, but in what look like high'er end homes these kitchens cut corners.
I would make the argument if these are custom built homes, why didn't they have a surround built to match the fridge they planned to buy?