Thoughts on Lion now?

[Eug]

If you an iMac and haven't upgraded yet, don't.

I'm getting freezing issues, both at re-login after the screen has been shut off, and also with Safari on certain web pages. It's really annoying. For the Safari issues I can just quit and relaunch Safari, but for the other freezing issues, I have to reboot.

Even on wired internet I get the internet connection lost issue. After re-logging in, if I immediately try a webpage it rarely will say I am not connected to the internet. Then after 2-3 seconds all is fine. This never happened in Snow Leopard.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I only used SL a few months, new MBA came with Lion, undid the reverse scrolling, and I'm impressed.

 

[Oil]

I'm thoroughly impressed. I had a few issues with wifi disconnecting on my '11 iMac but that has disappeared with 10.7.1

 

[Patranus]

With all its problems it is still better than Windows 7.
I use Windows 7 one of my development machines (CAD/.NET) and I get security updates every 4-7 days if not more frequently.

I have found that a lot of issues go away with a clean install of Lion.
I have done it on one machine a while back (to test) and am now backing up all of my other machines to do the same.

 

[Kmax82]

Overall, I don't see what the big issues are that everyone is having. I really like Lion. I think it works well, and can't really complain about much of anything. I love the new Mail design. I like Safari, and iCal doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Bateluer]

With all its problems it is still better than Windows 7.
I use Windows 7 one of my development machines (CAD/.NET) and I get security updates every 4-7 days if not more frequently.

I have found that a lot of issues go away with a clean install of Lion.
I have done it on one machine a while back (to test) and am now backing up all of my other machines to do the same.

Wouldn't this be a good thing? They're identifying vulnerabilities, and fixing them. OSX has security holes too, Apple just doesn't bother to patch them most of the time.

 

[gmaster456]

Wouldn't this be a good thing? They're identifying vulnerabilities, and fixing them. OSX has security holes too, Apple just doesn't bother to patch them most of the time.

I agree. Its even been proven Windows 7 is more secure than OSX.

 

[vbuggy]

All the machines I bought recently came with Lion of course, but I don't see any point in upgrading the existing machines to Lion. Happy (or as happy as I can be with Apples) with SL machines as my primaries pretty much everywhere. No real benefit for someone like me, and a step back in a few ways. I use Office, but the particularly Fisher-Price / iPadesque features of the OS and related apps such as Mail - undoubtedly aimed at typical Apple users who can't think of more than one thing at a time and love to sit hunched over their low-res laptops in Starbucks thinking they're the shit - is a bad sign of stuff to come.

I do like the integration of the recovery features though. Given the amount of times the Crapbooks (particularly with built-in storage) die and have to be turned around with Applecare, it'll make factory reverts a little easier.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Well, it seems I spoke too soon. I'm back to Snow Leopard again, at least on my Macbook Air. The problem is Lion is draining battery too fast.

With Lion, I can barely get from morning until a little bit past noon with my usual workflow, which involves viewing quite a lot of videos in the morning, write up reports, prepare charts, and other things, and I would get warnings by 1PM.

With Snow Leopard, I can do the same thing but all the way until 5PM, at which time, I'm off anyway, and I still haven't received any warning about low battery power.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

What kind of videos? I know there's no hardware acceleration for flash in Lion.

 

[TheStu]

What kind of videos? I know there's no hardware acceleration for flash in Lion.

Funny enough, i find that I can playback 720 & 1080p flash videos much better than the MP4 versions on Vimeo and Youtube.

 

[runawayprisoner]

What kind of videos? I know there's no hardware acceleration for flash in Lion.

Actually, there is hardware acceleration for Flash in Lion.

Adobe admitted that that the "issue" was an oversight or laziness on their part for not updating it for Lion release.

In any case, it's mostly Flash, yes. I catch up with news and information faster by watching videos.

 

[FearoftheNight]

Actually, there is hardware acceleration for Flash in Lion.

Adobe admitted that that the "issue" was an oversight or laziness on their part for not updating it for Lion release.

In any case, it's mostly Flash, yes. I catch up with news and information faster by watching videos.

so that is to say now they have fixed the "issue"?

 

[runawayprisoner]

so that is to say now they have fixed the "issue"?

Or rather, the "issue" was never there to begin with. But yeah, they "fixed" it.

If you just want to be sure, install Flash Player 11 Release Candidate. If it was a real "issue", there is no way Adobe didn't get a chance to fix it in Flash Player 11.

 

[rockIT2011]

guys, what the Main reason you updated to Lion?

 

[ubercaffeinated]

if i do a fresh reinstall of lion, and then do migration from a time machine back up, will i defeat the purposes of doing a fresh reinstall? will errors from my back up carry over to my fresh install?

 

[MotionMan]

guys, what the Main reason you updated to Lion?

The main reason that makes me want to do it is the integration with iCloud and iTunes Match. They may work in SL, but I have a feeling it will be painful and we will be treated like second-class citizens.

MotionMan

 

[Oyeve]

guys, what the Main reason you updated to Lion?

I'd like to know myself. I see no compelling reason to update from 10.6.8. I feel it was because apple "can" push out a new os, not like it brought anything big to the table.

 

[gmaster456]

if i do a fresh reinstall of lion, and then do migration from a time machine back up, will i defeat the purposes of doing a fresh reinstall? will errors from my back up carry over to my fresh install?

They shouldn't. I think you'll be fine.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

They shouldn't. I think you'll be fine.

Depends what you migrate back. What I did when I did this was I installed clean, installed applications clean, and then transfered my home folder over.

 

[ubercaffeinated]

Depends what you migrate back. What I did when I did this was I installed clean, installed applications clean, and then transfered my home folder over.

i was planning on migrating back EVERYTHING. saves me the trouble of reinstalling every app i need piece meal. was hoping to remove a few os snafu's by doing so, but i'm not sure what carries over exactly when i migrate.

 

[BabaBooey]

I love it and would say it is worth it...

 

[FearoftheNight]

I'd like to know myself. I see no compelling reason to update from 10.6.8. I feel it was because apple "can" push out a new os, not like it brought anything big to the table.

well i acutally updated but haven't been using it...hence the thread...my laptop has been sitting around without a fresh install since leopard came out

 

[Eug]

I see no real reason to update from Snow Leopard either at least for my daily usage. That said, I always update eventually anyway, just because I'm a geek.

This is the first time I've said this. Every .x upgrade of OS X has been pretty significant in terms of user features, but for Lion, not so much (at least for me).

 

[Eug]

i was planning on migrating back EVERYTHING. saves me the trouble of reinstalling every app i need piece meal. was hoping to remove a few os snafu's by doing so, but i'm not sure what carries over exactly when i migrate.

Try it and see, but a full migrate does bring over much of the junk.

In my case, I ran into some issues with an update on my iMac, including preservation of a weird Safari bug I encountered in Snow Leopard. So I tried a fresh install but a migrate and it hung at the 1 minute remaining status bar forever. After a couple of hours I just shut it down and rebooted. It did work but there were errors reported.

So I just said screw it and copied my clean MBP install over and re-installed all the apps from scratch.