Thoughts on Lion now?

[rockingz1313]

Just wondering if people had any problems with the upgrade vs the clean install. I'm close to buying the upgrade.

 

[Oil]

Just wondering if people had any problems with the upgrade vs the clean install. I'm close to buying the upgrade.

I didn't have any problems with an upgrade but I didn't have many apps on my relatively new computer

 

[gmaster456]

Just wondering if people had any problems with the upgrade vs the clean install. I'm close to buying the upgrade.

There has been a lot of complaints about the performance on Core 2 Duo machines. Whether this has been fixed our not I don't know.

 

[Dennis Travis]

I overall am very impressed with Lion. On my mid 2007 iMac 2.4Ghz with 4GB RAM it's much snappier than SL was on the same machine. I did a Clean install BTW.

I do love Mission Control. I had to get used to it but now when I go back to SL, I miss it. Only thing I have no use for is the Launchpad, but you do not have to use it. It's been 100% stable since the 10.7.1 update anyway. I never did have any issues with Lion even on my modded Core2Duo mini with only 2GB ram.

One point though just in case, there seems with some MBP's to be a battery life issue. It's only on some models. Anand ran into it in his testing on one machine.

 

[HaukSwe]

I still don't understand how the saving thing works and its pissing me off, I didn't have any problem with 'version control' for my documents or any of the sort.

Liking the gestures etc, occasionally use full screen apps but I don't really use it much different from SL, not even quite sure what the new features are. The little interface tweaks and animations are nice..

Thats about it really.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I still don't understand how the saving thing works and its pissing me off, I didn't have any problem with 'version control' for my documents or any of the sort.

What don't you understand about it? What application are you using?

 

[Emulex]

huh? my core2duo matte macbook pro and 2008 macbook air (lif sata ssd) both run so fast it's not funny.

I did an old white macbook mb062ll/a with 250gb drive and 4gb of ram (3 usable) and man lion ripped once it had an upgrade. It feels like it's not shutting down (more like hibernate) any more. i've never seen an old white macbook run as fast as after upgrading to lion.

so definitely all 1000% good on LION+core2duo. I'm about to upgrade my 1.83ghz OG imac to a $19 shipped core2DUO so i can hack lion on to it. The OG mac mini and imac can be forced to run LION but you kinda need the 64bit processor. Who would have thought the coreduo was 32 bit with intel-VT but the pentium-4 was 64bit

 

[MotionMan]

One thing that is bugging me that, hopefully, there is a simple solution.

Under SL, my desktop was a rotation through all of my iPhoto pix. Now, apparently, I have to specifically share each and every photo I want to be accessible to the Desktop Preference. I have a feeling that trying to share over 23,000 pix could cause some problems.

There has to be a better way. If not, that is a big Apple fail.

MotionMan

 

[Red Storm]

Is there ever going to be a change to how Lion handles multiple screens and full screen apps? I have my MBP connected to my TV. If play a video file on the TV and set it to full screen, my MBP's main display goes gray, unable to be used for anything. This is so incredibly stupid that it has to be a bug, right?

 

[TheStu]

Is there ever going to be a change to how Lion handles multiple screens and full screen apps? I have my MBP connected to my TV. If play a video file on the TV and set it to full screen, my MBP's main display goes gray, unable to be used for anything. This is so incredibly stupid that it has to be a bug, right?

I don't know if it is a bug so much as an overlooked thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they roll out the ability to full screen multiple apps if you have multiple monitors.

Then again, it wouldn't surprise if they don't do that either.

 

[MotionMan]

I don't know if it is a bug so much as an overlooked thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they roll out the ability to full screen multiple apps if you have multiple monitors.

Then again, it wouldn't surprise if they don't do that either.

You sound like a lawyer

MotionMan

 

[runawayprisoner]

Is there ever going to be a change to how Lion handles multiple screens and full screen apps? I have my MBP connected to my TV. If play a video file on the TV and set it to full screen, my MBP's main display goes gray, unable to be used for anything. This is so incredibly stupid that it has to be a bug, right?

It's actually an intended "feature" as far as I know. Basically they want you to focus on only one screen if your intention is to fullscreen an app. Otherwise, you should use windows.

This is one of the many things I didn't like about Lion. People had to nag continuously for a long while before they added desktop and fullscreen app manual re-arrange to 10.7.2. It used to be that the most recently fullscreened app or switched to desktop would be bumped up.

 

[scootermaster]

Maybe this is just me, but I'm noticing SERIOUS slowdowns with Lion. Beachballs all the time, mostly with Safari, but occasionally when opening other apps. And it's not like I've got a lot going on, or anything weird in terms of apps. I've normally got Adium, Mail and Safari open at the same time, and that's it (and this is on an Early 2011 i7 MBP with 8 gigs of Ram, clearly enough horsepower for that).

I haven't figured out what, exactly, makes it happen, but I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it. My best guess is something with Lion's window autosave or app restore or something, but it's really, really, really annoying. Back with SL I would only notice slowdowns when launching apps from a cold boot, or doing something semi-intensive like launching a VM and doing something else. That was likely due to the fact I don't have an SSD. Perfectly acceptable. But Safari (and then finder, if I try to do something else) with beach ball for 30 seconds when I'm just trying to open another window for no reason.

That is not perfectly acceptable. =[

The thing has Applecare, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to tell them; "some times, uh, it's slow". I was super careful about what I did and did not install on this machine but apparently not careful enough.

Boo.

 

[Blueychan]

Installed a clean copy of Lion last week on my Macbook Pro 13". Love it! Natural scrolling is awesome and intuitive once you get the hang of it. Mission Control just rocks.

 

[amdhunter]

I kinda want to load SL back so I can theme it better. Other than that, to me it's not a huge change at all.

 

[Rottie]

Lion OSX 10.7.2 over 1 and half week seems fine with my MBP no issues so far. I thnk it is worth upgrade.

 

[nerp]

Is there ever going to be a change to how Lion handles multiple screens and full screen apps? I have my MBP connected to my TV. If play a video file on the TV and set it to full screen, my MBP's main display goes gray, unable to be used for anything. This is so incredibly stupid that it has to be a bug, right?

Are you kidding me? Holy crap. Thanks for pointing this out. Looks like I'm sticking with Snow Leopard. I can't believe they think this is a step towards usability.

 

[Kaido]

Is there ever going to be a change to how Lion handles multiple screens and full screen apps? I have my MBP connected to my TV. If play a video file on the TV and set it to full screen, my MBP's main display goes gray, unable to be used for anything. This is so incredibly stupid that it has to be a bug, right?

Here's a stupid workaround:

http://geetduggal.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/reclaiming-your-second-monitor-in-os-x-lion/

 

[Red Storm]

Here's a stupid workaround:

http://geetduggal.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/reclaiming-your-second-monitor-in-os-x-lion/

I'll give that a shot, thanks.

I also miss SL's Expose. It would show you everything you had open, minimized or not. Lion's Expose just takes the current open window/program and zooms out a bit, minimized applications and windows are not shown at all. I don't know how these two issues got through Apple's design/testing.

 

[Zaap]

I'm just glad in 10.7.2 they put a "Skip" function back in the finder when copying multiple files to another directory where same-name files may already exist.

^ This was beyond stupid. For my job, I'm constantly working from a central server and copying large numbers of project files back and forth to my local machine. This dumb change in Lion 10.7 made that task much more time consuming. My choices were either sort by hand, mass-overwrite files (regardless of changes made to them either server side or locally IE: unacceptable) or make huge amounts of space-wasting duplicates (also unacceptable). This was the kind of UI decision made by people that don't use computers for actual work, for people that don't use computers for actual work. The same types that revamped Final Cut Pro from a tool favored by pros, to a pos favored by tools.

^ Infinitely better. Currently 'skip' now does the same thing.

 

[Sid59]

What iCloud functions, if any, do i get when i upgrade to Lion?