So wrong....but I will let your tiny moronic brain try and figure out whyNo, just the cost of it. Having a man off work for 12 weeks would cost me $24K.
So wrong....but I will let your tiny moronic brain try and figure out whyNo, just the cost of it. Having a man off work for 12 weeks would cost me $24K.
Is that on companies to pay for, or does the government pay for some of it?Where I'm from (Germany) it's 12 months mandatory paid leave and 14 if the father wants two months BUT you have the right to request twice that and this can be done up to the childs 8'th birthday.
Employers plan ahead as notice is given and that's fine. Obviously the days for sick leaver or for taking care of your sick child are not regulated, as it works in any civilized nation.
Naturally your paid vacation is not counted towards any of that so you'll still get your four weeks every year (which is a bit low compared to other nations) so you can add that in there.
PTO is also paying people to not work.Paying people to do not work is a bad idea. If you want Family leave, fine. Go use your PTO/Vacation time. You want to be paid to be off work and still retain all your other time off as well? Sorry, but you cant have your cake and eat it too.
I wonder if a big reason there aren't a lot of Americans wanting to go into this field is because of the mentality of people like BoomerD. Why bust your ass at a job in the heat, for shit pay and zero benefits, all so you have a bad back by 45.We've had a shortage of trade workers for well as long as I can remember. This void has long been filled by illegal labor from abroad and not just Mexico...lots of Poles when I was in Chicago. Instead of increasing the legal supply of this labor through immigration and doing tighter regulation of employers we've just pushed it under the table, which is traditionally how America usually chooses to deal with policy problems.
Critical thinking skills aren't exactly a feature of right wingers. In fact quite the oppositePTO is also paying people to not work.
PTO is also paying people to not work.
Want to do business in America, follow American laws.Yes, but PTO is earned along with your tenure, performance and per paycheck.
This paid family leave garbage is a handout employers are forced to pay.
Yes, but PTO is earned along with your tenure, performance and per paycheck.
This paid family leave garbage is a handout employers are forced to pay.
Thoughts on 'paid leave'?
Alright derpface, if you let anyone not offer the benefit, very few companies would be able to voluntarily put themselves at a huge competitive disadvantage by offering them. It's all or nothing, and that isn't a secret so I'm not sure why you don't understand it.Whether or not a company offers a benefit should be up to the company. Maybe by choice. Maybe by contract negotiations. It should NOT be required by law.
As evidenced by all the countries currently doing it now for the past 30+ years without issue. Is this what passes as a compelling argument in your circles?Paying people to do not work is a bad idea. ...
Easiest, most effective system by far to implement. No means testing, instances of fraud should be extremely minimal with good planning, and you could even tax it right back from rich people. Combined with a consumption tax with similar progressive mechanisms could transform government overnight. Thousands of government workers in hundreds of departments could be instead working on meaningful infrastructure projects all over the nation. No let's complicate everything because my brain can't comprehend a "lazy" person getting a steady paycheck without yelling at socialism cloudsSounds like something Basic Income would generally cover fairly well. Takes it off the backs of employers, but ensures people have the security to do what they need.
The world obviously does. But that doesn't mean we should make it harder for professionals to have kids.
No, just the cost of it. Having a man off work for 12 weeks would cost me $24K.
Ok so if all your competitors had to do the same…No, just the cost of it. Having a man off work for 12 weeks would cost me $24K.
I couldn't imagine paying an employee to stay home for twelve weeks, that's $24k that I have to pay.
Who pays for my leave? Who pays for my health care? Who pays for my vacations? Who pays half of my SS taxes?
Funding all of that would cut my customer base by 85%, and end my business overnight.
Allowing time off is one thing. Paying you to stay home and burp a kid is another.
Who does your job while you're out? Do they hire somebody else temporarily, raising costs by paying two people? Or do they offload your duties onto someone else, increasing their job load?
Did you miss the part about some of them not running above board operations?Ok so if all your competitors had to do the same…
We are blowing through resources like there is no tomorrow. Sucking ground water dry all over the world. Trash filling up the oceans. In the midst of the 6th mass extinction event in world history. The best thing you can do for the environment is not have a kid, especially in a first world country.Principally because we aren't developing sustainably, especially in reference to the use of fossil fuels. Without fossil fuel use, we could expand population quite a lot more without issue. We produce a large surplus of food yearly, and waste gigatons of it. The developing world could double their food production with advanced farming equipment.
Many/most families couldn't/wouldn't take the pay cut for 8-12 weeks.Sounds like something Basic Income would generally cover fairly well. Takes it off the backs of employers, but ensures people have the security to do what they need.
In the nuclear family the dad has nothing to do with care taking, and the wife stays home. That is why the right doesn't believe in paid family leave.By the way, framing it as "to stay home and burp a kid" is pretty fucking condescending. I don't understand how this became a political issue anyway...this shouldn't even be a right vs left thing. The right STRONGLY believes in the nuclear family unit, right? Then why fight so hard against the ability to establish this close family bond?
We are blowing through resources like there is no tomorrow. Sucking ground water dry all over the world. Trash filling up the oceans. In the midst of the 6th mass extinction event in world history. The best thing you can do for the environment is not have a kid, especially in a first world country.
That doesn't mean we should ban kids, or not have parental leave. But to claim the world doesn't have a population problem is just wrong.
In the nuclear family the dad has nothing to do with care taking, and the wife stays home. That is why the right doesn't believe in paid family leave.
Speaking of, under FMLA, if a husband and wife work at the same company the company can make them share the 12-weeks of FMLA, instead of each getting their own.
We are blowing through resources like there is no tomorrow. Sucking ground water dry all over the world. Trash filling up the oceans. In the midst of the 6th mass extinction event in world history. The best thing you can do for the environment is not have a kid, especially in a first world country.
That doesn't mean we should ban kids, or not have parental leave. But to claim the world doesn't have a population problem is just wrong.