They're not being given that.
The cost of rent in New York City is higher than everywhere else in the country.
The cost of a haircut is higher.
The cost of a burger is higher.
The minimum wage should be higher.
this goes for a lot more places than just NYC.
people have been living just fine with min wage the past decade, now all of a sudden it's a problem? the problem is entitlement mentality that people have grown to have the past decade.
You don't understand, they don't. The wealth has been taken from them to the top.
You are speaking like a business owner who develops a thousands a day drug habit and decides he'd like to collect private jets, telling him employees to take repeated pay cuts.
Clearly, that's the best place to cut. We have a lot of wealth. It's shifted to the top.
Their wages would increase as well. The wealth has been siphoned off to the top.
Increasing the mininum wage is a lever the government has, and affects others as well.
You're right, that increasing the minimum wage isn't all that's needed. In recent decades, for example, taxes have been shifted off corporations and the wealth onto others.
The capital gains tax being lower than wage tax is just one issue of inequity to fix this.
The cost of rent in New York City is higher than everywhere else in the country.
The cost of a haircut is higher.
The cost of a burger is higher.
The minimum wage should be higher.
Increasing the minimum wage, is like putting a bandage on a cut artery. It will just slow the flow of the problem, but will not fix it. And since one may feel safer now seeing a bandage on it, may forget to go and actually fix it.
The minimum wage is too low, I agree, but asking anything above 10 right now is ludicrous until we know how the market will react (because it will). Especially since this isn't the fix, just a symptom reduction.
The system itself is the issue, and I am not talking the rich being rich and syphoning money. It is people have to fix their mindsets and not expect great things without investments (both financially and life investments), and people have to understand if they want an overhaul of the system, we have to first make our own lives worse, and bare the burden for it to get better. (take 1 step back to take 2 steps forward)
Plus capitalism is not just the competition of good, but the competition of a work force. As long as people will willingly work for X minimum wage, you can't even start to fix the system. And since companies have to stay around each other in wages, or lose a lot of their possible labor force to another company, so it balances itself.
3) The system is fucked up, and outside another market crash, it wont change.
You're paid what you're worth. If you're paid more than you're worth, you should feel fortunate. (And don't slit the throat of the gift horse, much less look in its mouth!)
Except you're wrong. First, people deserve a living wage, period. You're immoral to want to deny them that.
You don't understand, they don't. The wealth has been taken from them to the top.
You are speaking like a business owner who develops a thousands a day drug habit and decides he'd like to collect private jets, telling him employees to take repeated pay cuts.
Clearly, that's the best place to cut. We have a lot of wealth. It's shifted to the top.
I make 100k/year. My partner makes 60k/year. Even at 160k/year, we don't feel like we are economically viable to have kids yet. I just read in the article that one of the strikers have 4 kids and make minimum.
Economy is bad. Stop having kids. I don't blame them for wanting a better life but is you know you are in a bad economic situation, don't have kids.
Hmmm... :hmm:
What was the net result of the last one? The middle class lost half its wealth while practically all of the economic recovery went to the top 1%.
A massive transfer of wealth from the American people to the top.
Mate, you're wasting your time.
You're trying to reason with people who will cheer on a business like McDonalds that seeks to improve upon the profits it makes year on year, yet the moment a worker tries to get a payrise they'll bleat on about greed and entitlement.
The cost of rent in New York City is higher than everywhere else in the country.
The cost of a haircut is higher.
The cost of a burger is higher.
The minimum wage should be higher.
Oh, so your four bedroom house had two of it's bedrooms removed, and attached to a 1%'ers house?
No it didn't. Because you didn't lose half your wealth, you lost an imaginary number attached to your actual wealth. A number that go too far removed from the real value in the first place due to uninformed idealists like yourself who think they can manipulate the system.
Its the American way, don't study in high school even though its brain dead easy and work in McDonalds the rest of your life. Then complain that McDonalds doesn't pay enough to support a livable wadge. While your at it shoot out 10 kids then complain welfare doesn't pay enough for you to have so many damn kids.
Just do everything in your power to be a burden on others without trying to improve your own sustainability. :thumbsup:
Sorry, I don't buy that for a minute. That's like saying applying a bandage until you get to a doctor is a bad idea. There's zero indication the problem will be forgotten.
You really seem not to understand how things work.
You seem to be calling for peope to 'not be willing to work for low wages'. That's a reason I mentioned the average $10,000 wage in 1900 - people need to eat and will work for crumbs if that's what's available. That's why that idea of it just being some negotation is a myth - one side can throw away any worker and replace them, while the worker has to eat.
That leads to wages spiraling down, unless there are things like collective bargaining to increase the power of workers in the negotiation.
Companies aren't at risk of losing a lot of their labor force to competition, if 'the system' has allowed low wages to be the norm. You seem to have no idea how 'the norm' gets raised.
What was the net result of the last one? The middle class lost half its wealth while practically all of the economic recovery went to the top 1%.
A massive transfer of wealth from the American people to the top.
Tell me again how the next crash will fix things?
Wrong. We need to fix things by the American people getting better informed and understanding thye are being lied to on economic issues by the wealthy interests.
Again, it's not all about you.
Some people have a situation where 160k isn't enough. Others have situations where 30k is.
Medical bills, student loans, building a business, having a job in an expensive city, level of risk aversion... there are all sorts of valid reasons why someone might not want to have 3 kids on that sort of income.
I think this is the problem with this thread. People are judging others based on what they've done in their lives.
"I made $5.25/hr bagging groceries and don't make minimum wage anymore... those people should too."
"I can afford 3 kids in DC with a house. Everyone should be able to."
"That guy making 160k can't budget properly and is gonna raise spoiled brats."
Ever think the person working 2 minimum wage jobs, 70 hours per week might be able to say the same about you? That you don't work hard enough, that your kids are spoiled?
The guy making 160k might think you're lazy for not working harder in life, you're irresponsible because you can't afford X or Y for your kids, and he thinks you probably should have limited yourself to 1 kid?
It sucks to be judged like that. Not everyone is in the same situation. Some people need a little more help than others. We could all use a little extra dose of empathy.
The cost of rent in New York City is higher than everywhere else in the country.
The cost of a haircut is higher.
The cost of a burger is higher.
The minimum wage should be higher.