"Thousands" of min-wage McDonalds workers to walk off jobs to demand better pay

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Funny how McDonalds didn't go bankrupt when the effective min wage was $11.00/hr in the 80s

McD's is entitled to offer any wages they see fit and to maximize their profits.

Their employees are free to walk out the door and search for new employment if they don't like their current wages.
 

slag

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no it doesnt. 160K a year is damn good money anywhere in the country.

Difference of opinion then I guess. To me, damn good money is where I don't really have to worry much about the future because I'm sleeping on beds made of $100 bills and doing what I please without really having to think about my income.

With 160k, I still have to plan for weekend family trips, save for tires for my truck, etc. I don't use credit so planning is everything.
 
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I agree with this. People have just got to think. One caveat to this story is that they are paying $7-8 in NYC, and its unsustainable for someone to commute into NYC for a job that pays $7-8 because the living costs are so high in NYC and the other locations they are on strike at. My thought was that McDonalds should give them a $1 raise, explain its only for those location because the living expenses are so high, and say if they strike again they are fired.

so when enough people decide it's not worthwhile to commute to the city to work, the labor supply dries up and McD's will have to offer higher wages to attract employees.
 

HamburgerBoy

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lol, my dad supported several children in southern California making less than $100k/year. You'd have to live in Monaco or something for $160k/year to be insufficient for having just one child.
 

Train

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so when enough people decide it's not worthwhile to commute to the city to work, the labor supply dries up and McD's will have to offer higher wages to attract employees.

This.

Fuckin' reality man, it has all the answers.

In a lot of places, McDonalds already starts above min wage, they'd rather the absolute bottom of the barrel goes and works at Taco bell or KFC.
 

EagleKeeper

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What policies were changed to support the workers - unions? Taxes? Min wage? Handouts?

Unions came after technology and innovation.

You're highly ignotant about the issue and history of labor issues. I could recommend some reading to you to help with that, you have no interest, so you'll stay ignorant about it.

I may be ignorant on the issue; but I did not see you answer the question either.
 

Hugo L.

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If they feel like they aren't making enough, they can indeed walk off. But man, I'd fire every fucking one of these ingrate idiots for doing so.

I studied hard to get a job, I make a decent living (I guess), but if I had stayed on my ass doing nothing, I wouldn't expect more from a minimum-wage-type job than, well, minimum wage.
 

Veliko

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which will make the price of product go up as well. do you honestly think companies will just absorb the cost of higher labor? no they will raise prices. then the min wage workers will be in the same boat the are now.

No, the prices won't necessarily go up due to the nature of supply and demand - the price will be whatever the market will bear.

If the companies thought that they could raise prices without impacting on sales then they would have already done so.
 

Train

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No, the prices won't necessarily go up due to the nature of supply and demand - the price will be whatever the market will bear.

If the companies thought that they could raise prices without impacting on sales then they would have already done so.

In a vacuum you'd be right. But the point he is trying to make is that if all the min wage workers get more money for the same work, it has an effect similar to inflation. The chain raises prices, which the min wage workers can afford with the increased money... then we are right back where we started.
 

Veliko

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In a vacuum you'd be right. But the point he is trying to make is that if all the min wage workers get more money for the same work, it has an effect similar to inflation. The chain raises prices, which the min wage workers can afford with the increased money... then we are right back where we started.

And the point I'm making is that the chain won't necessarily raise prices.
 

DrunkenSano

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And the point I'm making is that the chain won't necessarily raise prices.

Worse, it could close down if they aren't making a profit. So the stupid entitled whiners will go from having a minimum wage job to no job. Then they will leech off of the rest of us who put in an effort to get a decent job by languishing in unemployment checks.
 

FeuerFrei

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Companies should be free to pay as little as they like. We'd have more employment and lower prices.

I just don't see why people think every job should offer a living wage. When I worked at McDs I never thought it would support independent living unless maybe I made it to manager status. It didn't occur to me to bitch at McDs because my skills weren't worth more.

As you can tell I'm not really in favor of minimum wage.
 

silverpig

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no it doesnt. 160K a year is damn good money anywhere in the country.

Say you have medical bills, and you and your wife both just finished professional degrees (say law, or business school), and have student loans from grad + undergrad. You both have jobs in Manhattan. You could easily be on a KD diet.
 

highland145

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Say you have medical bills, and you and your wife both just finished professional degrees (say law, or business school), and have student loans from grad + undergrad. You both have jobs in Manhattan. You could easily be on a KD diet.
Let's say you live in SC, have no debt, on $160K.......
 

BoberFett

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Oh, so your four bedroom house had two of it's bedrooms removed, and attached to a 1%'ers house?

No it didn't. Because you didn't lose half your wealth, you lost an imaginary number attached to your actual wealth. A number that go too far removed from the real value in the first place due to uninformed idealists like yourself who think they can manipulate the system.

I'm glad somebody understands wealth.
 

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Doubling McDonald's Salaries Would Cause Your Big Mac To Cost Just 68¢ More: Study

"McDonald's can afford to pay its workers a living wage without sacrificing any of its low menu prices, according to a new study provided to The Huffington Post by a University of Kansas student.

Doubling the salaries and benefits of all McDonald's employees -- from workers earning the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour to CEO Donald Thompson, whose 2012 compensation totaled $8.75 million -- would cause the price of a Big Mac to increase just 68 cents, from $3.99 to $4.67, Arnobio Morelix told HuffPost. In addition, every item on the Dollar Menu would go up by 17 cents.

Morelix's research comes as fast-food workers across the country strike for a $15 per hour minimum wage. Workers are also protesting for the right to unionize without fear of retaliation. Protesters are holding strikes in seven cities over a four-day period, according to Salon.

Morelix looked at McDonald's 2012 annual report and discovered that only 17.1 percent of the fast-food giant's revenue goes toward salaries and benefits. In other words, for every dollar McDonald's earns, a little more than 17 cents goes toward the income and benefits of its more than 500,000 U.S. employees.

Thus, if McDonald's executives wanted to double the salaries of all of its employees and keep profits and other expenses the same, it would need to increase prices by just 17 cents per dollar, according to Morelix."


Macdonald can afford to pay it's workers a decent wage and they should.
 

purbeast0

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so basically 17% price raises across their most popular menu items. that is a pretty steep price increase % wise for consumers, especially considering they get absolutely nothing more out of it.

the cry babies need to go find new jobs.
 

Red Squirrel

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no it doesnt. 160K a year is damn good money anywhere in the country.

lol no kidding. That's 100k more than what I make, and I'm fairly well off. With 160k I would have more money than I know what to do with. I would spend just for the sake of spending. Actually I'd probably own a nice huge cottage with lot of toys like boats and stuff.
 

Yreka

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It's a tough call, because in some cases the state minimum wage is fine for employees in the majority of the state, but in a city like NYC it's no where near possible to survive on.

It's too bad they can't alter minimum wage a little more specifically based on geographic location and average income for the area. Instead these corporations threaten to leave when they are forced to pay their employees more.

They can unless there is some weird state level mandate in NY

Fed Min Wage is $7.00

But it costs more money to live in CA so

CA Min Wage is $8.00

But it costs more money to live in SF so

SF Min Wage is $10.55

If Mc Donalds doesn't want to pay it then they are free to leave all that business to their competitors

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Why exactly are we bitching about McDonalds again ? I'll never understand why people bitch at corps to "do the right thing" and pay more while their competitors pay less for the same quality of labor.. They are doing what we expect them to do.

This is equally retarded as thinking rich people who believe the tax rate is too low should simply pay more voluntarily.

If the min wage is too low, why not direct your bitching at the .gov where it belongs ?
 
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