I used to look at people like they were nuts when they did that. Except it was when the price came out to $17.99 and they'd hand me $20.01.
Nah fuck that. If you have no skills you don't deserve to make the same amount as the guy trained in carpentry or machining. If I hand you an extra $.15 with my five dollar bill for my $4.15 total and you look ay me like I'm nuts, you have lower math skills than a first grader in all likeliness and honestly aren't worth more than minimum wage.
The workers will 'deserve' whatever they can get, which is exactly how it works for everyone and everything else.
Do you disagree that McDonalds 'deserve' the millions in profits that they make each year?
If the workers are able to squeeze some higher wages from their employers, then it means they are 'deserving' of it. If they get double then it means that they 'deserve' double.
I was also 'just fine' with my salary when I first started my job, but I have had payrises since then, as will have everyone else.
I don't think anyone commutes to work for minimum wage.
a cell phone has always been and always will be a luxury item for 99% of the population.
and wtf you talking about $500 for a moving van?
Nah fuck that. If you have no skills you don't deserve to make the same amount as the guy trained in carpentry or machining. If I hand you an extra $.15 with my five dollar bill for my $4.15 total and you look ay me like I'm nuts, you have lower math skills than a first grader in all likeliness and honestly aren't worth more than minimum wage.
i believe the workers at mcdonalds deserve what they agreed to when accepting the job, as well as what mcdonalds is willing to pay them. every job i've been to there is also talks about yearly raises during the interviewing process, so it's not like the raises that people will/wont get aren't expected.
and i do believe mcdonalds deserve the millions in profits the make each year - it's their business and they generate all the money, and can do what they please with it.
so then they all live in mcdonalds restaurants?
I didn't say a cell phone. And a free phone on a $40 contract is not a luxury. I'm sure any place of employment would expect to be able to call you. What you're suggesting is an offensive assumption.
When I moved from D.C. to New York, it was over $500 for the truck, gas, and tolls. I guess if you're moving somewhere closer like Jersey or Connecticut, you might save $100 or so.
But yeah, they're just spending that money on iPhones. Damned kids.
And if McDonalds choose to pay their staff double once this strike action is over, how would that make you feel?
what he is suggesting is not offensive. i suggest you look that up. if you find that offensive you need help.
You claimed $500 for the truck now its $500 fort ruck, gas and tolls? lol
Ahh that shit ticks me off.
I stopped at McDonald's to get my daughter lunch after a very long practice. the cashier was roughly 35-45. anyway the total was $5.49. I had a $10 and change in my hand. She must of only seen the $10 and she rung it up before I could say anything.
I said hold on i have the $.50 and gave her $10.50.
She gave me $4.01. I told her no I get back $5.01 she said no the machine says $4.51 back . I told her yes but i also gave her $.50 so i should get back more. No i did not ask how come she came up with the 1 cent and not the 51.
she refused until a manager come over.
My 11 yr old daughter was laughing at her! I turned to her and said "this is what happens when you don't pay attention in school. you end up working a job that takes no skill"
I admit i also said things under my breath about the lady i shouldn't have. i hope my daughter didn't hear but suspect she did. Not the best example i set for her and i do regret that.
intend to get behind the wheel and drive it. This is a process that requires fuel and roads.
but that's not what you said is it? you said $500 for a rental van.
uhh, no?
McD's isn't offering higher wages. the dumbass workers are planning a walk out to strongarm their way to higher wages.
I imagined he took it as a given that people would realise he was including the running and maintenance costs in that figure.
Is it really necessary to include caveats for every detail?
but when you say "You believe someone who can't make rent is somehow going to be able to scrounge up an extra $500 for a moving van" you make it sound like a moving van was $500.
and hell I moved several hundred miles and it cost me $110. $20 for the van and the rest gas. NOt everyone has to pay tolls.
so yeah a quick "$500 for van and tolls" instead of trying to stretch the truth.
You proposed that if enough workers decided that it wasn't worth working at McDonald's at minimum wage, they would have to raise their wages to attract enough labor.
A bunch of their workers decided exactly that.
Now you accuse them of trying to "strongarm" McDonald's into raising their wages.
Are they no longer allowed to decide what salary they're willing to accept?
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A worker deciding what his labour is worth is bad.
Not bad. But when an unskilled employee ups and demands a 100% raise? It's stupid and that's what we've said.
We would laugh if they got fired for it. Stupid because walking out on a job to decide what his labor is worth is retarded. The way to increase his worth is to apply for a higher paying job, most likely that requires more education or skills. If he gets the job, then he decided his worth correctly. If he doesn't get it, then he over-estimated his worth.
but when you say "You believe someone who can't make rent is somehow going to be able to scrounge up an extra $500 for a moving van" you make it sound like a moving van was $500.
and hell I moved several hundred miles and it cost me $110. $20 for the van and the rest gas. NOt everyone has to pay tolls.
so yeah a quick "$500 for van and tolls" instead of trying to stretch the truth.
The logic seems to be:
McDonalds seeking more profits is fine.
McDonalds choosing what to pay their staff is fine.
An executive deciding what his labour is worth is fine.
A worker deciding what his labour is worth is bad.
How did you do a one-way move for only $20 for the rental? Did the van also have 'Free Candy' on the side or something?
My g/f needed a 20+ foot truck and for the 600 mile move it was over $500. I had to fill the thing 3-4 times.
A worker can decide what their labor is worth. But when no one will hire them at that worth, then they have to reduce how much they are worth or stay unemployed.
The person that pays gets to decide your worth. Don't like it find a different person to judge your worth, or do something to increase your worth.
Not bad. But when an unskilled employee ups and demands a 100% raise? It's stupid and that's what we've said. We would laugh if they got fired for it. Stupid because walking out on a job to decide what his labor is worth is retarded. The way to increase his worth is to apply for a higher paying job, most likely that requires more education or skills. If he gets the job, then he decided his worth correctly. If he doesn't get it, then he over-estimated his worth.
If this strike action results in them getting a payrise, how is it stupid?
There are many ways someone can increase their worth. You've listed one way.
They've chosen another way.
That's not the only way. The worker can band together with other workers and refuse to work for less than double what they were getting paid before. They might even elect someone to represent all the workers in negotiations. That representative might dicker with the corporation and in the end settle on a sizable raise that is less than double.
If only something like that had been invented...