"Thousands" of min-wage McDonalds workers to walk off jobs to demand better pay

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BoberFett

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What? That only assumes they can afford them at a certain price point. there is no correlation that someone that can afford them now can afford them at a higher price or are willing to have "a little less spending cash."

And neither leads to less employment.

Didn't you know? Supply and demand is fake! It's a sham perpetrated on us by the 1%! Demand is static and unaffected by price! Consumers will spend any amount of money on a hamburger, as long as they know that money ensures that a high school dropout can afford to feed his seven children.
 

Leros

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If pay at fast-food joints was doubled and the prices raised accordingly the down side would be fewer people eating fast food.

This is not a down side.

It sounds like the restaurants would be losing money if pay doubled, meaning its not feasible without raising prices.
 

Nintendesert

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This thread inspired me to go buy a double cheeseburger today. Alky inspired me to throw it back up.
 
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that extra $2 makes the world of a difference? congrats you get to feel better about yourself.

Always go local when possible. Eating out though is the real problem. Brown bag it people! I eat a ton of turkey samiches and salads from home. You save time, money and oh yeah you dont contribute to the problem that is this thread. I'm not a lil guy by any means but seriously eating out is so bad primarily for the health reasons, not the business practices.

Why pay people to do things you can easily do yourself? in less time than you spend waiting for your order you could have made your samich or whatever for a brown bag meal. Oh thats right, all of you eating at those places are just as lazy and entitled as those you're complaining about.

I've been known to have a cooler with steaks or chicken and a weber Q100 in my trunk. Think a little differently and boy can you get great results.

nitrates. lots of it.
 

Patranus

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in '08, Oakland had billboards up along the interstates looking for trainees for PD; $80+K/year. that is at least now equivalent to $90-95Khr now

That translated to $40-50/h; well above the $15 that these organizers are asking for.

Are you crack baby high?

Are you really comparing a police officer to someone who works at McDonalds?
 

JM Aggie08

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I suspect this will get as much traction as the Zimmerman protests a couple weeks back.
 

TallBill

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Yes, I lift.

WTF do pics of you naked and apparently fondling yourself have to do with McDonald's workers?
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TallBill

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like you defending Mosh and the ilk.

Hahahaha if you only knew. I like Mosh as a person but was the happiest to see her leave the psych ward. Congrats on your conspiracy theory, turns out that you're just a giant turd. And everyone knows it, including every mod and admin, and yet here you are just defecating all over Anandtech like you have for a decade.
 

beachchica

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like you defending Mosh and the ilk.


What are you talking about? (I'm guessing there's a back story here) Your entire existence on this board seems to revolve around creating useless, self-serving drama.

I don't know why your attention whore demeanor is constantly rewarded. Not to start anything but in my lurking, I've seen people get vacationed for far less here. You're kind of an anomaly. An outlier in relation to how this board seems to be moderated.

I'm sure conspiracy theories abound...
 

CPA

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Here's the overall problem: assumptions.

no doubt there's a marginal good-not-sold whenever prices increase; the question is the elasticity of demand.

If we assume that there's a static amount of spending cash, then it would make sense to reduce employment in the frivolous entreatment sector (fast food, movies, etc) in order to increase the quality of the lives of those working in said sectors.

If we assume that the same amount of fun will be had no matter, then we don't hurt employment, and we improve everyone's life that's working: at the expense of investment capital (as even money put in the bank becomes investment capital for folks borrowing from the bank)

In truth, a 16 year old working at McD's doesn't need a 'living wage'. Instead we should extend the earned income tax credit and force it to be distributed into pay checks. We should adjust this so that someone working full time has enough earned-income to adjust their EIC up to the point that they are out of poverty.

A 16 year old girl wealthy parents will now not make nearly as much as a 32 year old widow with 3 kids. But the supply/demand driving the existence of the job will not be impacted; though the supply of people who should have jobs looking for them will go up.

I hate economics.

In a free market, or even semi-free, such as ours, money doesn't stay static among the people, nor does supply/demand. So, you can't assume that unless you are really saying is we need to change our economic structure. Me spending more money will actually DECREASE my level of fun. It's called buyer's remorse.

And expanding the EIC is ridiculous. If anything, it should be abolished.
 

Soundmanred

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What are you talking about? (I'm guessing there's a back story here) Your entire existence on this board seems to revolve around creating useless, self-serving drama.

I don't know why your attention whore demeanor is constantly rewarded. Not to start anything but in my lurking, I've seen people get vacationed for far less here. You're kind of an anomaly. An outlier in relation to how this board seems to be moderated.

I'm sure conspiracy theories abound...

Pageviews.
 

Dr. Zaus

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LOL @ niLK's icon!

In a free market, or even semi-free, such as ours, money doesn't stay static among the people, nor does supply/demand. So, you can't assume that unless you are really saying is we need to change our economic structure. Me spending more money will actually DECREASE my level of fun. It's called buyer's remorse.

And expanding the EIC is ridiculous. If anything, it should be abolished.

Behavioral economics disagrees. We have found that the hedonic value of something increases when it costs more!

Your second statement is baseless except as it relates to preconceived bias that says people 'earn what they deserve' there's no theoretical justification for your argument.
 

olds

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What are you talking about? (I'm guessing there's a back story here) Your entire existence on this board seems to revolve around creating useless, self-serving drama.

I don't know why your attention whore demeanor is constantly rewarded. Not to start anything but in my lurking, I've seen people get vacationed for far less here. You're kind of an anomaly. An outlier in relation to how this board seems to be moderated.

I'm sure conspiracy theories abound...
I heard it that he's seeing an admin on the side and that he generates page views. (people love to watch a train wreck)
 

cubby1223

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Let's say there are on average 10 workers in the building at once. You're telling me that McDonald's only profits $32 an hour? That's not very much...

On the other hand, that's $60k a year and I've heard that a McDonald's franchisee owner needs many locations to make a decent income.

Hmm...

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it were less than $32/hr that goes to the owner.

Franchise owners I know for other restaurant chains all work separate full time jobs to make enough money.

Restaurants are busy from 11am to 2pm, and from 5pm to 8pm. In between they are nearly completely dead, and you cannot run a business hiring people with split daily times.
 
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Engineer

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Restaurants are busy from 11am to 2pm, and from 5pm to 8pm. In between they are nearly completely dead, and you cannot run a business hiring people with split daily times.

Tell that to the restaurant that my daughter works at. The shifts are 4 hours each and a "double" is 8 hours. If it's slow, you get sent home from part of your 4 hour shift. On top of that, if you work a double, you can routinely be sent on "break" for up to 2 hours between your 1st shift and 2nd shift (both added to make up to 8 hours not including your break - which can push you to a 10 hour day at times).

Of course, this is not a McDonalds and actually have waiters/hostess/etc. where tips are paid for somewhat higher wages.
 

waggy

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Did they walk yet?

If they did, did they get a raise?

They tried the walk off before in chicago. they had tv crews there and only 3 employees walked off. The rest were inside busting ass because they were busy as shit.

so not sure how well this one is going to turn out.
 

Dr. Zaus

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They tried the walk off before in chicago. they had tv crews there and only 3 employees walked off. The rest were inside busting ass because they were busy as shit.

so not sure how well this one is going to turn out.

You don't work at McD's when you are the kind of person that thinks about the future or has integrity.

Just offer a $10 bonus (right now, in your hands) to anyone that gives up on the union shit and nearly no-one will walk.

For them $10 in their hot little hands is worth giving up thousands over the course of a year.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Hahahaha if you only knew. I like Mosh as a person but was the happiest to see her leave the psych ward. Congrats on your conspiracy theory, turns out that you're just a giant turd. And everyone knows it, including every mod and admin, and yet here you are just defecating all over Anandtech like you have for a decade.

The problem is that's all you know as you have nothing to contribute. I have in fact have been very helpful in many threads.
 
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