alkemyst
No Lifer
- Feb 13, 2001
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I thought you did something involving racking servers and whatnot?
It involves racking gear at times, yes.
I thought you did something involving racking servers and whatnot?
Yes, there are many people who will not work hard no matter what they get paid and yes there are people that work hard no matter how little they get paid. Those people that work hard at their minimum wage jobs are the ones that get moved up and become the managers, supervisors etc at their jobs but there's a reason why some people are stuck at their minimum wage job, because they don't try.
So you believe that the guy who has been there for a year and making minimum wage + $1 won't mind if if the new guy standing next to him suddenly gets bumped up to the same rate? And that now he's back to minimum wage?
I have come to the conclusion that you attack anything posted.
As an engineer, if I could get by at my salary just answering tech support calls for 8 hours a day; I am damn sure my CSR skills would be through the roof.
I have come to the conclusion you view any response to your posts as an attack.
Lighten up Francis, it was a quote from a funny movie.
I was referring to all of your posts pretty much as a collective.
Well if your calling me out then PM. otherwise STFU whiney bitch.
Ideally, the employer would move everyone up the same dollar amount, preserving raises earned. In practice, dbag employers will do the absolute minimum, which is what the guy should really be mad about. People that want others' lives to suck simply because theirs sucked are at the height of selfish irrationality. This should sound familiar.
you must be new here.
Which means all wages go up, meaning prices will rise to match the new cost of the goods produced.
1) Are we really naive enough to think that the pool of available jobs is high enough so that everyone in the country over the age of 21 can have a skilled (read: need to go to college) career position?
2) Are we really naive enough to think anyone in any situation in life can be accepted into and afford to go to college just to get those "higher" paying jobs?
3) Do you think it's "entitlement" when someone asks for a livable wage just because you feel that the job is "beneath" educated people?
4) Do you really think that most of these people are just spending the money on doing drugs and buying Uggs?
One last point to my rant. My understanding is that they asked for $15/hr. Sounds like a lot? That's about $30,000 a year before tax. If that's entitlement, it's laughable.
you must be new here.
To a degree, yes, but you aren't even telling half the story. Wages are just one part of the final cost of production, particularly when the average labor cost is at or near the legal minimum. For example, for McDonald's, the cost of raising the minimum to 10$ could be covered completely by raising the price of the big mac by ten cents. A single menu item would go up by 2.5 percent, that's it.
That "study" by an ignorant student was soundly debunked. They used McDonald's financial report and didn't even read the data correctly.
And you don't thing the entire supply chain would be affected by increased wages, meaning the cost of everything McDonald's purchases would rise as well as their direct labor costs? Indirect labor costs would go up as well.
1 & 2) Not everyone needs a college degree to land a non-min wage job. plenty of trade/vocation schools will teach skills necessary for a higher wage job like a plumber or electrician.
3) it's not about a job being beneath someone. it's about what the market will bear.
and the way they are going about it, yes, it's entitlement. why does one feel an unskilled position, a job that requires the mental capacity of a 3rd grader, suddenly deserves nearly double the current min wage?
4) not necessarily drugs, but if they're still stuck in a dead end job, we know they're not the brightest and hence not financially saavy. they'll use that money towards 20" rims and iphones (and yes, they already do).
lastly, entitlement isn't about dollar amount. i'm sure someone as educated and successful as you already knew that though.
a job that requires the mental capacity of a 3rd grader, suddenly deserves nearly double the current min wage?
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This is what $15 minimum wage will lead to
This is what $15 minimum wage will lead to
And yet somehow neither of those countries has crippling unemployment or apocalyptic inflation (i'm assuming the first is the Netherlands and the second is Japan). I'm pretty sure vending machines are not reflective of economic health.