If you really think all this is ok because "we aren't talking about career jobs," would you support restricting all minimum wage jobs to no more than 20 hours per week?
LOL!
demanding $15/hr from their $7.25/hr or whatever it is. so they believe they should get double the wage for doing the same exact job they've happily been doing for a while.
retarded.
if they want a higher paying job, get a job that 14 year olds can't do.
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this just screams the whole "entitlement" attitude that people have now a days.
So, what is it that you do for a living?This is why murderous revolution is the only answer. Money must forcibly be taken from the pockets of the rich. They already hurt the economy by removing cash from it and then either a) sitting on it or b) personally investing in inflation.
Who should pay for raises for McDonalds workers? The CEO.
People don't seem to understand how upside-down our economy has gotten over the past <100 years, the rate at which is continues to get worse, and how attempting to fix it before we're all fuckin' slaves is not 'communism.'
people seem to forget that there are plenty of companies out there that make restaurant automation equipment.
Heh... people seem to forget that there are plenty of companies out there that make restaurant automation equipment. We already have machines that can automatically bread chicken and make burger patties, fryers and ovens that start and stop automatically when the food is done, and self service kiosks for ordering food.
The only reason they haven't fully automated the fast food process at this point is because hiring some dumb kids working for $8 with no health insurance is cheaper than installing and maintaining a few robots to cook the food and clean up.
At $15 an hour, these people just priced themselves out of a job. Once the robot chefs are installed, all you need is a store manager to keep an eye on the robots and some security cameras to keep an eye on the manager, and everything else will run itself.
Brilliant! McD's. New hours: 3:15pm to 11pm on school days. No longer serving breakfasts or lunches, because our employees will be in school.this should never have been a place for the older generation to make a living, it should just be high school kids or working college stiffs who need something simple and mundane to get some spending money.
Sure, you CAN make a living there if you go the management route, but theres how many of those per restaurant? Not enough
Working at a small town one, $7.25 might actually be one of the higher paying jobs you can get
It's a tough call, because in some cases the state minimum wage is fine for employees in the majority of the state, but in a city like NYC it's no where near possible to survive on.
It's too bad they can't alter minimum wage a little more specifically based on geographic location and average income for the area. Instead these corporations threaten to leave when they are forced to pay their employees more.
Brilliant! McD's. New hours: 3:15pm to 11pm on school days. No longer serving breakfasts or lunches, because our employees will be in school.
Like I said in the post immediately before this one, society needs the sort of people who work at McD's. I don't feel sorry for their lot in life. Regardless, though, why should my tax dollars subsidize those workers (food stamps, etc.) when McD's can easily raise their wages in certain markets where it's more expensive to live. I'm not saying that McD's employees should be driving to work in M3's - heck, they can use mass transit. But, the type of people stuck in "minimum wage" jobs should at least be able to get a small apartment & have enough money for food, health insurance/health care, with a little money left over for other expenses - and based on a 50-60 hour work week. I have no problem with expectations that if you don't strive for success, you have to work a little harder. Nonetheless, the current minimum wage really doesn't provide that in those higher cost of living markets.
In order to justify not having a higher minimum wage, you have to argue that the minimum age worker of today is less skilled than the minimum wage worker of days past.
The only entitlement mentality is among the billionares like the Kochs who multiplied their wealth to over $50 under Obama then fought to defeat him, they want even more.
Why are so many people mad at them for trying? Would you want someone taunting you every time you asked for a raise?
Let's just simmer down and see what happens. I think it's interesting.
That's not how market forces communicate. You turn down the job or quit if it doesn't pay what you are willing to work for. If there isn't a market to support it with enough people willing to work at those wages they will either have to offer more or close down. Simple. Accepting the job and then hurting them with temporary walk-offs to extract more from them is despicable. Other jobs WILL pay more for working harder. They didn't "try" that.
Despicable in what way? If they have leverage they should use it.
That's capitalism at it's finest.
Other jobs WILL pay more for working harder. They didn't "try" that. Instead they decied to HURT them and EXTORT while occupying jobs they don't want while others DO.
That's not capitalism. That's entitlement mentality at it's finest.
How far can we take this? I prefer watching TV or playing video games for a living and someone should pay me a living wage to do it? In that world everyone would clamor for the best, most fun, and easiest jobs and no one would be left to do the real work.
So you're going to tell me with a straight face that no white color employee, from CEO to low-level manager, has ever done anything like this?
One set of rules for all workers, please.
WTF are you talking about? I said it was wrong. It doesn't matter who does it. Why would you assume that I have two sets of rules?
Because it is the CURRENT example we are discussing. Why do you ask questions for which the answers are obvious?So why are you so upset at these guys in particular?
Obligatory "get a job that requires skills"
Also double is too much. Tons of people make it on $30k, you just cant afford a family, it wouldn't really be fair to the people that work odd jobs for $10-13 if Mcdonalds started paying $14.50