Threadripper BUILDERS thread

[IEC]

Some quick stock benches:


Had trouble cold booting XMP2 @ 3600. XMP1 @ 3466 for now:


Seems to also be capable of 3333 CL14 using CL16 subtimings... will fine-tune/tweak later:


Cinebench R15 stock:

 

[ddogg]

My build album (56K need not apply ):

Spoiler

The goods, waiting for EK water block:


Less than impressed with the EK... basically the same size as a Ryzen waterblock with a larger contact plate:


Using included Thermal Grizzly... I don't think it was quite enough paste for optimal coverage:


Cleaned up and reapplied with some Arctic MX4:


Custom loop leak testing:


Testing succeeded. Time to build:


Almost complete:


Corsair Air 540, front view:


Corsair Air 540, rear view:


Since I know you people like RGB...


More RGB...

Very nice! I'm getting really impatient now seeing these pics lol. Feel like just getting that ek block urgh.

 

[IEC]

Very nice! I'm getting really impatient now seeing these pics lol. Feel like just getting that ek block urgh.

I might get a designed-for-Threadripper Heatkiller or similar block when they release... the EK retrofit seems to be less than optimal. I just did a torture test @ 4GHz 1.4V (probably requires significantly less voltage, just wanted to cook it) and it was already at 60°C after 5 minutes AIDA64 torture. I ended the test then because it's clear my slim 360mm + EK TR4 combo (all I can fit in my Air 540) isn't going to cut it for extreme OCing.

I'll see how much voltage I can trim off to be stable @ 4GHz OC all cores, as well as how far I can max OC. If it's worth throwing 1.4V at the chip (i.e. 4.2GHz OC or something) then I would consider getting a new case + 2x480mm rads. If not, I'd be happy with 4GHz at 1.3V or whatever it ends up requiring.

 

[Markfw]

I might get a designed-for-Threadripper Heatkiller or similar block when they release... the EK retrofit seems to be less than optimal. I just did a torture test @ 4GHz 1.4V (probably requires significantly less voltage, just wanted to cook it) and it was already at 60°C after 5 minutes AIDA64 torture. I ended the test then because it's clear my slim 360mm + EK TR4 combo (all I can fit in my Air 540) isn't going to cut it for extreme OCing.

I'll see how much voltage I can trim off to be stable @ 4GHz OC all cores, as well as how far I can max OC. If it's worth throwing 1.4V at the chip (i.e. 4.2GHz OC or something) then I would consider getting a new case + 2x480mm rads. If not, I'd be happy with 4GHz at 1.3V or whatever it ends up requiring.

I did 4.1@1.36 vcore, but the temps were out of sight (97c peak)

 

[ddogg]

I might get a designed-for-Threadripper Heatkiller or similar block when they release... the EK retrofit seems to be less than optimal. I just did a torture test @ 4GHz 1.4V (probably requires significantly less voltage, just wanted to cook it) and it was already at 60°C after 5 minutes AIDA64 torture. I ended the test then because it's clear my slim 360mm + EK TR4 combo (all I can fit in my Air 540) isn't going to cut it for extreme OCing.

I'll see how much voltage I can trim off to be stable @ 4GHz OC all cores, as well as how far I can max OC. If it's worth throwing 1.4V at the chip (i.e. 4.2GHz OC or something) then I would consider getting a new case + 2x480mm rads. If not, I'd be happy with 4GHz at 1.3V or whatever it ends up requiring.

The Heatkiller TR block is releasing on the 6th.
TBH, 60c is not bad at all considering it's a 16C chip
The insane thermals is why I decided to get the thickest 480mm rad out there as I want to get a serious OC on it.

 

[IEC]

Did a quick OC using the following settings:
Multi 40x
vCore 1.325V (apparently, I can go even lower...)
DDR4-3333 CL14 (still need to tweak subtimings)

Cinebench R15 = 3415 points


Cinebench R11.5 = 30.03 points


That's it for today, I'll play around more in the evening tomorrow.

 

[IEC]

Just... one... more... bench. 4GHz 1.325V. I am going to see how much lower in voltage I can go tomorrow.

 

[urvile]

 

[IEC]

The insane thermals is why I decided to get the thickest 480mm rad out there as I want to get a serious OC on it.

I think you will be pleased. I can do 4025MHz @ 1.300V and I'm not done finding how far I can push it without going high on the volts. Stability testing via AIDA64 stress test.

From early this morning, will tweak more in the evening:

 

[MarkPost]

thats great! I never hoped it would be stable @4.0 with so low vcore. What about temps, ambient room etc?

 

[IEC]

thats great! I never hoped it would be stable @4.0 with so low vcore. What about temps, ambient room etc?

Ambient temp is 26C-27C (I have thermostat set at 79F). Cooling is via EK TR4 waterblock to a slim 360mm radiator mounted inside the case, 3x120mm Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-14 fans @ 1200RPM in a pull configuration.

As I'm sitting here typing this with a few apps open (but idle) I am sitting at 31.9°C. Under light web and desktop usage I top out at 45.0°C.

Stress testing is a different story. If I torture test using AIDA64 I can go above 65°C and it's clear I'm hitting the limits of my custom loop/EK retrofitted water block (I may retry thermal paste application, it's possible I used too much).

 

[ddogg]

^Well those temps seem good enough for me as I will likely beat you since I have more cooling capacity. I'll get the heatkiller in the future if needed.
Just told my friend to pick up the taichi at his microcenter branch. Will order the EK block and RAM tonight and pick up the 1950x next week. Looks like the build is finally happening.

 

[MarkPost]

Ambient temp is 26C-27C (I have thermostat set at 79F). Cooling is via EK TR4 waterblock to a slim 360mm radiator mounted inside the case, 3x120mm Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-14 fans @ 1200RPM in a pull configuration.

As I'm sitting here typing this with a few apps open (but idle) I am sitting at 31.9°C. Under light web and desktop usage I top out at 45.0°C.

Stress testing is a different story. If I torture test using AIDA64 I can go above 65°C and it's clear I'm hitting the limits of my custom loop/EK retrofitted water block (I may retry thermal paste application, it's possible I used too much).

temps sound good to me Ambient temp is "high" (well, compared to the one i am here its cold, i'm 32ºC right now i hate summer for this, its insane xD).

EDIT: have you checked when throttling begins?

 

[IEC]

temps sound good to me Ambient temp is "high" (well, compared to the one i am here its cold, i'm 32ºC right now i hate summer for this, its insane xD).

EDIT: have you checked when begins throttling?

I have not hit temps high enough to throttle. However, I am trying to stay below the 68°C maximum stated by AMD on their 1950X product page. I assume this is the figure they arrived at based on some formula for expected silicon life (10 years? 15 years?)... so it's possible exceeding it by a little won't matter much, if at all. But I'll likely end up buying a new case and using at least double the radiator surface area just in case (I have a 420mm radiator I can add to the loop).

 

[MarkPost]

yeah I would like to know whats up with that max temp thing, I'm sure there is some good margin yet without fear about silicon long life... after all they are two Ryzen 7

The funny thing is that 65ºC full load when oced, would be just a dream in any other cpu

 

[dnavas]

I have not hit temps high enough to throttle.

Does throttling begin based on tctl readings, or is that just for fan pwm? Keeping temp readings under 68C is going to be really hard.

But I'll likely end up buying a new case and using at least double the radiator surface area just in case (I have a 420mm radiator I can add to the loop).

Keeping positive pressure in a case exhausting that much is sort of tough -- are you going with something like a 900D where you can run left-to-right underneath? It almost feels like I should buy a small case for the motherboard proper, and then a couple of filters to surround a couple of external, free-standing radiators ;^/

 

[IEC]

Does throttling begin based on tctl readings, or is that just for fan pwm? Keeping temp readings under 68C is going to be really hard.

Keeping positive pressure in a case exhausting that much is sort of tough -- are you going with something like a 900D where you can run left-to-right underneath? It almost feels like I should buy a small case for the motherboard proper, and then a couple of filters to surround a couple of external, free-standing radiators ;^/

I assume it is based on tDIE, as tCTL appears to be for fan curves (and there is a option in the MSI BIOS to choose between different water/air profiles). Like I said, I haven't noticed any throttling so I can't comment on the temperature you have to hit to actually throttle.

Debating whether I go "one step" up and get something like the TT X71 which has room for a bottom chamber 360mm rad + 420mm rad in the front... or go for the utterly ridiculous, and humongous TT Tower 900.

Also... Heatkiller doing it right:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXqk9CmAT0_/

 

[ddogg]

I assume it is based on tDIE, as tCTL appears to be for fan curves (and there is a option in the MSI BIOS to choose between different water/air profiles). Like I said, I haven't noticed any throttling so I can't comment on the temperature you have to hit to actually throttle.

Debating whether I go "one step" up and get something like the TT X71 which has room for a bottom chamber 360mm rad + 420mm rad in the front... or go for the utterly ridiculous, and humongous TT Tower 900.

Also... Heatkiller doing it right:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXqk9CmAT0_/

Damn, that heatkiller block looks nice. But I would likely have to wait until the 10th or later to receive it so I'll play with the EK for now.
Just had my friend pick up the taichi, they just had 1 left in stock Won't be able to pick it up until next weekend though. In the meantime, just ordered some RAM https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232437 and the EK block and some dual reservoir mounts.
Hoping I don't have any issues running it at 3600 CL16.

Spoiler: Taichi

 

[eek2121]

That moment when the fate of your $1,000 CPU is in the hands of the local postal service person.

Edit: Oh, and they are late. This never happens unless they are delivering something I need.

 

[The Stilt]

What's the highest Prime95 28.10 (Custom, 128/128, in-place FFTs) stable frequency you can achieve?

 

[Markfw]

Damn, that heatkiller block looks nice. But I would likely have to wait until the 10th or later to receive it so I'll play with the EK for now.
Just had my friend pick up the taichi, they just had 1 left in stock Won't be able to pick it up until next weekend though. In the meantime, just ordered some RAM https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232437 and the EK block and some dual reservoir mounts.
Hoping I don't have any issues running it at 3600 CL16.

Spoiler: Taichi

I have that motherboard, and I have that ram. Just to be sure, update to the latest bios (mine went from 1.0 to 1.3) but it works perfectly at rated spacs, and I have 2 of those kits for 4 sticks total, 32 gig.

 

[Markfw]

Question to you guys with custom water setups. Would this kit be a good "starter" ? Could I simply add like a 360 rad in line or parallel with the included 240 ? And I assume the new EK water block you all keep talking about would work with this kit ? I would just love to buy it all in one kit, even if I had to enhance it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC8W5SB2259

 

[eek2121]

You know, some people complained about the CPU installation, but I must say, that was the easiest CPU install I've ever done in my life. I wish all CPUs were that easy. As an added bonus I didn't need a backplate for my cooler.

 

[ddogg]

Question to you guys with custom water setups. Would this kit be a good "starter" ? Could I simply add like a 360 rad in line or parallel with the included 240 ? And I assume the new EK water block you all keep talking about would work with this kit ? I would just love to buy it all in one kit, even if I had to enhance it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC8W5SB2259

The EK block we are talking about is nickel based with some other metals and mixing it with aluminum could potentially lead to corrosion, which is why they suggest only using that product with other "Fluid Gaming products" since they are all aluminum. Most of the custom water blocks and radiators on the market are made out of copper and mixing aluminum is not recommended.
I would buy that kit without the GPU block so you have more headroom on that radiator. If you want more then you will have to invest in custom water cooling parts.

 

[FiLeZz]

You are correct on all counts.
Good starter kit, It will work with the EK block, and you can parallel another 360 with this.