Threadripper BUILDERS thread

[Aenra]

You don't need that if you have your loop done right (rads, pump, pressure and flow, intakes/outtakes, positive case airflow). Put differently, if your liquid solution is -that- warm, you're doing something wrong.

Also, those of you being unable to maintain a stable 4.2, up to what voltage have you tried?

(do mind, am talking solely about voltage; if temps were what stopped you, you need not reply)

 

[ddogg]

You don't need that if you have your loop done right (rads, pump, pressure and flow, intakes/outtakes, positive case airflow). Put differently, if your liquid solution is -that- warm, you're doing something wrong.

Also, those of you being unable to maintain a stable 4.2, up to what voltage have you tried?

(do mind, am talking solely about voltage; if temps were what stopped you, you need not reply)

I tried upto 1.45 just to get a cinebench run and even then it crashed midway. The voltage increase is exponential after 4Ghz. I need around 1.22V for 4Ghz, 1.381V for 4.1 and I'm guessing somewhere close to 1.5V for 4.2. The temps at those kinds of voltages is too much even for my custom loop, I would have 90-100C temps.

 

[Gator762]

Out of curiousity, I was wondering if any of you custom loop guys have considered a chiller?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5AOPWU/ref=twister_B01N5AGU05?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Has a 1400 watt capacity for example. It's not cheap, but custom loops aren't either.

LOL, don't tempt me! I think the wife would kill me throwing that in the room.

 

[Gator762]

Gskill 3600 memory kits, but run them @ 3200, and a taichi motherboard .

My best recommendations.

I debated that for a while... And I certainly could be wrong, but I went with 3200 CL14, for 64GB. It was about $725, to go to 3600 would have been $800.

I think you're right on 32GB and less. I did get an email back again from G.Skill, they would only support 3200 up to 32 GB of RAM. They wouldn't support it with 64 GB, whether it was 8x8GB or 4x16GB. Which has me thinking that it isn't the RAM - the RAM is rated that after all, and would probably work in an Intel system. Must be how the Threadripper addresses it and also being tied to the Infinity fabric.

I'm hoping my Trident Z 4x16GB 3200 MHz CL14 will run 2933 @ CL14. I'd do cartwheels if it does 3200, but I really doubt it.

 

[Markfw]

I debated that for a while... And I certainly could be wrong, but I went with 3200 CL14, for 64GB. It was about $725, to go to 3600 would have been $800.

I think you're right on 32GB and less. I did get an email back again from G.Skill, they would only support 3200 up to 32 GB of RAM. They wouldn't support it with 64 GB, whether it was 8x8GB or 4x16GB. Which has me thinking that it isn't the RAM - the RAM is rated that after all, and would probably work in an Intel system. Must be how the Threadripper addresses it and also being tied to the Infinity fabric.

I'm hoping my Trident Z 4x16GB 3200 MHz CL14 will run 2933 @ CL14. I'd do cartwheels if it does 3200, but I really doubt it.

Well, my 3600 was running at 3600, but was only MOSTLY stable. at 3200 CL14, its bullet proof rock solid. You may even get 3200, try that first.

 

[Gator762]

Well, my 3600 was running at 3600, but was only MOSTLY stable. at 3200 CL14, its bullet proof rock solid. You may even get 3200, try that first.

Well, I sure hope you're right. But you're running 16GB, right? With the size of the memory modules, you hit some kind of magic barrier at 32GB.

 

[Markfw]

Well, I sure hope you're right. But you're running 16GB, right? With the size of the memory modules, you hit some kind of magic barrier at 32GB.

4 X 8 FOR 32 GIG TOTAL. (sorry caps)

 

[ddogg]

I also have the 32GB 3600 CL16 Samsung Bdie RAM and running 3466 CL16 stable. 3600 I get constant boot loops.

 

[Gator762]

4 X 8 FOR 32 GIG TOTAL. (sorry caps)

My bad, I'm probably the 20th poster that misread your 2x 2x8GB kits you bought.

Still, that's the at/below the magic threshold. For some reason beyond 32GB @3200 or higher isn't supported.

 

[thesmokingman]

Out of curiousity, I was wondering if any of you custom loop guys have considered a chiller?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5AOPWU/ref=twister_B01N5AGU05?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Has a 1400 watt capacity for example. It's not cheap, but custom loops aren't either.

There are more memorable ways to throw money away. Yea, you can use it but its not going to allow much overclock over the process limit. There's guy using one to try and hit 4.2, but he's got to push 1.55v-1.6v thru it and really is it worth it? For me its not... All the efficiency from running a TR is lost and you end up wasting three times that to run a chiller that can't get you past the silicon's limitations. TR is not hard to cool with a decent radiator to wattage ratio.

 

[The Stilt]

Finally I have something to cool TR with.

The second set of mounts I designed for Assassin II actually fitted and now the cooler sits firmly on the CPU.
Due to the vast size and number of the heatpipes the needed mounts were pretty complex (for a mount).

Three separate pieces with two angles in each, printed from ABS.

On Asetek 570LC (fat 120mm radiator) the temperatures hit 95°C tCTL just after 2 minutes of Prime95, with the fans running at 100% duty (~2100rpm).
With Assassin II the temperatures stayed < 85°C tCTL after > three times the soak time, with the fans running at < 1400rpm.

On this chip the power consumption at these settings (3.7GHz / 1.15V) is > 220W during Prime95 (excluding the minor voltage rails).
Pretty good result for an air cooler, at ~230W load.

 

[Charlie22911]

Pulled the trigger on a TR 1950X and TaiChi board with 128GB ram from the board QVL page along with a Cosmos II. I'll throw some photos up when I get the build finished.

Memory prices are still abhorrent I see.

 

[Gator762]

Never mentioned in the thread, I did order the Threadripper. Got it, the mobo, the RAM and PS. Case is supposed to arrive Mon. The water cooling setup shipped, hope that doesn't take too long.

Maybe I got lucky, I was able to get the CPU screws in without too much effort. #2 the hardest. Read that it's very difficult with some ASUS boards with the Foxconn socket.

 

[ddogg]

You need to tighten #3 just a little and then tighten #2 and #1 until they catch. Then go back to #3 until it is tightened to spec. Most people tighten #3 all the way making it nearly impossible for #2 and #1 to catch the threads

 

[Gator762]

@ddogg

My trick was to have #1 loosely screwed down before getting 2 and 3 a few turns.

When #1 was tightened to spec with the tool, I couldn't get 2 to catch.

 

[Chaotic42]

Well, knock on wood, my Gigabyte Aorus X399-based system seems okay now. I put the memory interleaving into "channel" mode, which allowed me to update the Windows drivers for the wi-fi device. Channel mode seems to keep it fairly stable, so we'll see. I've learned my lesson about buying within three months of launch though, holy crap.

 

[urvile]

Out of curiousity, I was wondering if any of you custom loop guys have considered a chiller?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5AOPWU/ref=twister_B01N5AGU05?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Has a 1400 watt capacity for example. It's not cheap, but custom loops aren't either.

Probably keep your beers cold to.

 

[ajc9988]

Big news! Asrock X399 Monoblock is coming soon!!!

 

[ddogg]

Big news! Asrock X399 Monoblock is coming soon!!!

Oh man, that is really nice to know. Wonder when that might be released.

 

[Charlie22911]

I wonder how they’ve sized the fin array for the CPU contact plate? I don’t know how much it matters but the CPU block by EK doesn’t cover the die area IIRC.

 

[ajc9988]

I wonder how they’ve sized the fin array for the CPU contact plate? I don’t know how much it matters but the CPU block by EK doesn’t cover the die area IIRC.

For a monoblock, each one is customized to the board because of the VRM placement, where the ram sticks are, mounting holes, etc. So, because of that, it will likely have better coverage than the CPU blocks.

 

[ddogg]

For those with a Taichi board, BIOS 1.7 is out today with support for NVMe raid, if anyone needs that functionality.
AMD has also released a driver update here http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-art...-for-the-AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-platform.aspx

 

[FiLeZz]

Waiting on the said patch from Asus on the Zenith board.

 

[Atari2600]

Anyone test drove the new NVMe driver yet? AMD seemed to hint at pretty damn good performance in the techreport writeup.

 

[Fir]

Waiting on the said patch from Asus on the Zenith board.

It's out, follow the thread over at OCN.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636566/...-x399-threadripper-overclocking-support/0_100

I updated to 0801. Board is starting to show more maturity now.
Will mount a pair of 960 pros on the DIMM riser either today or tomorrow and test it out!