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eek2121

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Final results: My CPU works perfectly at a max of 4.1 GHz @ 1.375. It freezes up regardless of voltage at 4.2 GHz...the max voltage I tried was 1.425. I can play with the BIOS settings in an attempt to push it, but damn, I was happy with 4.0 TBH. 4.1 is just a bonus, and I might even back it down to 3.8 or 3.9 to keep my office somewhat cool. It works great though.

Also, Nvidia's drivers HATE AMD CPUs. I am trying to get my hands on a Vega 64 to do a comparison. However, I've done a bit of profiling, and there is definitely something sketchy going on. I still get awesome framerates in most games (rocket league is hitting an apparent 250 fps cap @ 1440p on my system vs Anandtech's poor showing, ROTR is double Anandtech's result @ 1440p, and PUBG is over 100fps, which AT didn't test), but when the CPU isn't even hitting 30% utilization on a single core, even at 1080p or 720p on a 1080ti, something is up. If/when I get this GPU, I'll provide a further update. As it is, if you have an AMD CPU and an Intel user is claiming their CPU is faster, take it with a grain of salt until this issue is out in the open.

Note this isn't an attack on AT, though I DO wish they would investigate their results a bit further...I noticed they pulled the 'game mode' numbers off from bench...

For others with my setup:

1) Games that are CPU dependent aren't pulling even 20% CPU load (on a single core mind you, so this isn't a threading issue).
2) Games that are GPU dependent don't scale with GPU clocks, a bit of a lower level investigation points at Nvidia drivers bottlenecking a single core (doesn't show up in task manager...task manager actually does not show all that much for lower level stuff surprisingly...) and limiting FPS.

Running these games under a much older AMD GPU shows none of these behaviors, and in a few cases, the older AMD GPU gets much better framerates. I thought this may be a system issue, so I looked at various hardware sites, but my benchmarks are in line with their benchmarks. For now, keep that in mind. Threadripper is great at gaming, but either Nvidia cards have some serious issues, or their drivers do. Either way, I plan on investigating this further.
 

Fir

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Sounds like the Enermax is a beast but it wont work on a 7980XE which is coming next week!



This is a threadripper builders thread not an Intel thread. Want to talk Intel? Make another thread.


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eek2121

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Sounds like the Enermax is a beast but it wont work on a 7980XE which is coming next week!

Hah, I can't wait for that one to drop. Intel's CPUs have a severe TDP disadvantage currently. We'll see if the 18 core can keep up with Threadripper, not that it matters costing over 2x as much



This is a threadripper builders thread, not an Intel thread. Want to talk Intel? Make another thread.


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Fir

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LOL at 4.66GHz it's no contest. It's expensive but it's the best too. I just wish Asus would hurry up and drop a socket 2066 workstation solution! My 9560X does 4.33 AVX load 24/7 stable. I would be happy with that speed and 18 cores. 4.5+ would be icing on the cake!




Stop with the Intel talk. This is a threadripper builders thread.


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Reinvented

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Anybody know of a inexpensive case that will fit a 360 radiator ?

Are you doing a custom loop? Or are you using the Enermax or TT cooler? Makes a big difference on what we recommend that'll fit comfortably and price.
 

Markfw

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Not sure your question. I have the perfect case for $250, but I really would like (if I can find it) a cheaper one to hold me over. I should not be buying this SECOND TR, but.....
 
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Markfw

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OK, I got it at Amazon, I hope its the right one. And another 1080TI for good measure.
 
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Markfw

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Looks right to me. Windowed version was $90 and in stock at newegg, just fyi.
well, shipping was $10 at newegg and free for amazon, so, I got it for the same price. Who cares about a window.

Anyway, next week I will have TWO threadripper systems !!!
 
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ddogg

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I was going to recommend the fractal case as well. I have one for one of my other systems. It's really nice and can support upto a 420 slim radiator.
 

ozzy702

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I have the define S and I'm a fan. It's a great case and very easy to work in. I have 3x 140mm fans up front and it's silent and cools well. Certainly worth consideration. It has a ton of options for watercooling.
 

kensiko30

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Hey guys.

6 years after building my i5 2500k (best build I've ever made, still going strong @4.5Ghz), I'm interested in a CPU upgrade, but the only reason would be for video encoding. I tested with someone else and it would be 4.15x faster for the usual files I convert, that's an impressive step forward.

However this build will cost a bunch of money ! Just this week the 1950x dropped 200$, so I'm not in a hurry to upgrade. But I have a few questions for you. I'm interested in the ASRock Taichi. Could you tell me why I would pay 200$ more for another X399 card if I don't plan to overclock ? I don't do much games neither, I'm going to stick with my old HD7800. I'm however interested in silence and I plan to use SpeedFan again to tweak that, so I need to know if SpeedFan works with this motherboard. I'm also looking for a fan, no liquid (aren't the little pumps noisy ?). There is a fan at 40$ (Arctic freezer 33) and another one at 100$ (Noctua 120mm). I wonder if this will be enough.

For the RAM, any recommendation ? I know there were issues in the past. I will probably go with DDR4 3000.
 

Markfw

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Hey guys.

6 years after building my i5 2500k (best build I've ever made, still going strong @4.5Ghz), I'm interested in a CPU upgrade, but the only reason would be for video encoding. I tested with someone else and it would be 4.15x faster for the usual files I convert, that's an impressive step forward.

However this build will cost a bunch of money ! Just this week the 1950x dropped 200$, so I'm not in a hurry to upgrade. But I have a few questions for you. I'm interested in the ASRock Taichi. Could you tell me why I would pay 200$ more for another X399 card if I don't plan to overclock ? I don't do much games neither, I'm going to stick with my old HD7800. I'm however interested in silence and I plan to use SpeedFan again to tweak that, so I need to know if SpeedFan works with this motherboard. I'm also looking for a fan, no liquid (aren't the little pumps noisy ?). There is a fan at 40$ (Arctic freezer 33) and another one at 100$ (Noctua 120mm). I wonder if this will be enough.

For the RAM, any recommendation ? I know there were issues in the past. I will probably go with DDR4 3000.
It dropped $200 ? just $120 here. And why $200 more for the Taichi than something else ? Its the least expensive X399 motherboard, at least on newegg.
As for an HSF, the only things available are AIO's (water) or the Noctura NH-U14S TR4-SP3 for air. None of them are noisey. As for ram, you want at least 3200 or you are strangling your CPU. And the tightest timings you can get.

As for speedfan, no idea, but you don;t need anything like that.
 
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kensiko30

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It dropped $200 ? just $120 here. And why $200 more for the Taichi than something else ? Its the least expensive X399 motherboard, at least on newegg.
As for an HSF, the only things available are AIO's (water) or the Noctura NH-U14S TR4-SP3 for air. None of them are noisey. As for ram, you want at least 3200 or you are strangling your CPU. And the tightest timings you can get.

As for speedfan, no idea, but you don;t need anything like that.
Sorry I'm in Canada everything cost more here


No I mean I try to find a reason for buying a motherboard at a higher price than the taichi
 

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The Arctic Freezer 33TR (sTR4 compatible) should be adequate to run the 1950X at stock (IIRC it weighs around 700g). It's certainly reasonably priced at $48. I'm less sure how quiet it will be, given the 200-1800 RPM range of the 120mm fan included.
 
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