Threadripper BUILDERS thread

[scannall]

Maybe someone out there will do an Epyc build?

Supermicro H11SI
Epyc 7601

And I have to wonder if those would mine crypto currency as well.

 

[boing]

Have Gigabyte switched over to the Lotes bracket on their Aorus 7 Gaming X399 board or are they still being sold with a Foxconn one?

 

[Pick2]

$4500 for an Epyc 7601 ? (on newegg)
$9000 for a pair + $680 for the MoBo + 16 sticks of ram + ...
Just a tad to rich for My blood

Makes Threadripper look down right cheap !

 

[Viper GTS]

Have Gigabyte switched over to the Lotes bracket on their Aorus 7 Gaming X399 board or are they still being sold with a Foxconn one?

FWIW the Designare I just got was Foxconn. I knew what to expect though and it went together with minimal fuss.

Viper GTS

 

[Justinbaileyman]

$4500 for an Epyc 7601 ? (on newegg)
$9000 for a pair + $680 for the MoBo + 16 sticks of ram + ...
Just a tad to rich for My blood

Makes Threadripper look down right cheap !

Exactly what I was thinking when I was looking through AMD Epyc CPU's and Mobo's.
Threadripper is a heck of a deal for what it is and that is why I am getting one soon as the 2950x releases.
Got $ set aside just for this build but will be using left over parts here and there that I am to poor to rebuy or upgrade to.

 

[eek2121]

So, I have been running my Threadripper at 4.2 GHz regardless of the prime95 throttling. No mysterious crashes or issues thus far. The CPU does not throttle under 100% load either for other apps. I am going to look into the prime 95 issue a bit more. It may be a specific instruction set (AVX?) that causes it. Been running since Friday. 1.425V LLC4 puts the CPU VID at 1.361V I believe. Cinebench scores as high as 3600/180.

 

[urvile]

FYI for those of you who bought the EK Supremacy EVO Threadripper water blocks before 24 Nov 2017... EK made an official statement apologizing and is offering us a $25 coupon code:
https://videocardz.com/press-releas...macy-evo-threadripper-water-block-design-flaw

It did decently despite the obvious design shortcomings... but really, look at the differences between the old and new designs, wow.

Direct link:
https://www.ekwb.com/news/an-apology-from-ek-to-the-enthusiasts/

Glad I went with the heatkiller IV then.

 

[ddogg]

Hardwaremax.net posted a review of the Heatkiller TR4 nickel block. Comfortably took first spot. The EK performs terribly according to their review.

Full review can be found here
http://www.hardwaremax.net/wasserku...test-watercool-heatkiller-iv-pro-threadripper

 

[eek2121]

Hardwaremax.net posted a review of the Heatkiller TR4 nickel block. Comfortably took first spot. The EK performs terribly according to their review.

Full review can be found here
http://www.hardwaremax.net/wasserku...test-watercool-heatkiller-iv-pro-threadripper

Too bad it's not in English. What was the speed? 4 GHz? Fan speeds?

 

[UsandThem]

Too bad it's not in English. What was the speed? 4 GHz? Fan speeds?

Click on the British flag in the upper right corner......

 

[dlerious]

Click on the British flag in the upper right corner......

I couldn't find whether it was the old TR4 block or new one from EK. Not that it matters, I have the Heatkiller block (all copper).

 

[eek2121]

Click on the British flag in the upper right corner......

I figured I was probably asleep at the wheel. After playing with voltages on all 16 cores again, now I'm playing with quad core speeds + voltages. Prime95ing 4.25 quad core right now. @ 1.4V LLC3. might be able to go lower with the voltages, but i'm raising clock speeds instead.

Edit: Hmm, Threadripper needs 1.45V for 4.3 GHz in quad core mode, but temps are under control. Highest temp is 65C. Prime95ing it.

 

[boing]

FWIW the Designare I just got was Foxconn. I knew what to expect though and it went together with minimal fuss.

Viper GTS

Oh, I thought they were supposed to be fairly universally bad, that's a bit more reassuring I suppose.

 

[Paratus]

I figured I was probably asleep at the wheel. After playing with voltages on all 16 cores again, now I'm playing with quad core speeds + voltages. Prime95ing 4.25 quad core right now. @ 1.4V LLC3. might be able to go lower with the voltages, but i'm raising clock speeds instead.

Edit: Hmm, Threadripper needs 1.45V for 4.3 GHz in quad core mode, but temps are under control. Highest temp is 65C. Prime95ing it.

You’re still on the MSI Pro Carbon, right?

At stock I’ve been able to get to 4.15 using Ryzen master and doing some quick tests with CPU-Z’s in built bench before crashing at 4.2. As I’m likely running out of voltage.


I’d like to OC via BIOS.

I’m assuming CPU Core Voltage is what I want to set around 1.35V?

Do you know which LLC modes do what?I’m not sure if low number LLC modes add more voltage or less. My guess is higher number modes is more voltage?

Also any idea what the VDD_SOC_Voltage does?

Thanks!

 

[boing]

I've got a couple of questions about RAM, sorry if they're basic.

1) On a quad channel board like the Aorus Gaming 7 is it OK to buy two sets of dual channel ram or does it have to be a quad channel set?

2) I've read a few reviews of the Aorus gaming 7 that use G-skill trident z ram but under the QVL tab at the site it doesn't list any X399 boards, the G-skill flareX does however, which would you guys recommend of the two?

Trident -Z Flare X

Trident is listed as quad channel sets Flare-X only listed as dual hence question 1).

 

[Markfw]

1) I have done it both ways. So long as its 2 sets of the exact same memory.
2) I have 3 threadrippers. All use the 4x8 gig config of the same samsung b-die kits as in that spec. I have one set of flare-x quad channel sitting on the table ready for threadripper
number 4.

Link newegg kits with exact models, and I can tell you which I have.

Flare-x https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232623

Tritend-z: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232205

 

[eek2121]

You’re still on the MSI Pro Carbon, right?

At stock I’ve been able to get to 4.15 using Ryzen master and doing some quick tests with CPU-Z’s in built bench before crashing at 4.2. As I’m likely running out of voltage.


I’d like to OC via BIOS.

I’m assuming CPU Core Voltage is what I want to set around 1.35V?

Do you know which LLC modes do what?I’m not sure if low number LLC modes add more voltage or less. My guess is higher number modes is more voltage?

Also any idea what the VDD_SOC_Voltage does?

Thanks!

The MSI board cannot deliver the power needed to go above 4.1. Sure, you can take it to 4.2 or 4.3, but once you try prime95 or another stress test, it will either fail, lock up, or yet worse, the entire system will just shut off. I personally suspect a BIOS issue. Also, TR itself may need higher than 1.45V for 4.2 GHz...but once again...

EDIT: Let me rephrase this. 4.125-4.2 GHz on TR I believe is certainly doable on threadripper. The MSI X399 carbon just does not provide fine enough control over voltages to make this happen. Either that or too much power is being pulled for the board to handle. I can clock my Threadripper at 4.2, play games, do light work, and even some heavy loads all day, but some loads cause random cores to throttle to 550MHz briefly. Temps aren't even close to out of control, the only thing that looks odd to me is the suspicious 270-272amp package power.

 

[Paratus]

The MSI board cannot deliver the power needed to go above 4.1. Sure, you can take it to 4.2 or 4.3, but once you try prime95 or another stress test, it will either fail, lock up, or yet worse, the entire system will just shut off. I personally suspect a BIOS issue. Also, TR itself may need higher than 1.45V for 4.2 GHz...but once again...

EDIT: Let me rephrase this. 4.125-4.2 GHz on TR I believe is certainly doable on threadripper. The MSI X399 carbon just does not provide fine enough control over voltages to make this happen. Either that or too much power is being pulled for the board to handle. I can clock my Threadripper at 4.2, play games, do light work, and even some heavy loads all day, but some loads cause random cores to throttle to 550MHz briefly. Temps aren't even close to out of control, the only thing that looks odd to me is the suspicious 270-272amp package power.

That maybe but I’m running a 1900X so I only
have half the cores of the 1950X to supply voltage to to begin with. Everything stock turbo usually runs up to 4.0Ghz or 3.9 under heavy load.

I’ve seen XFR take a few cores up to 4.15GHz on lightly threaded loads.

I’d like to try overclocking using the bios. I’m just unsure what are the safe settings to play with.

 

[eek2121]

That maybe but I’m running a 1900X so I only
have half the cores of the 1950X to supply voltage to to begin with. Everything stock turbo usually runs up to 4.0Ghz or 3.9 under heavy load.

I’ve seen XFR take a few cores up to 4.15GHz on lightly threaded loads.

I’d like to try overclocking using the bios. I’m just unsure what are the safe settings to play with.

The board is buggy and cheap as hell. I can disable a die and crank things up to 4.2 easily. I suspect it's a BIOS issue because power delivery issues aren't making any sense at all. Try 4.2 at 1.425V LLC3 if you have an X399 Carbon board and let me know if that passes small settings. Just curious. If not, you can probably bump the clocks down a bit.

EDIT: And now something is going on with my cooling system, CPU is much warmer today @ 4.1 than yesterday. Starting to seriously think about going custom loop, but I have to save for 8 weeks out on surgery this year.

 

[Paratus]

The board is buggy and cheap as hell. I can disable a die and crank things up to 4.2 easily. I suspect it's a BIOS issue because power delivery issues aren't making any sense at all. Try 4.2 at 1.425V LLC3 if you have an X399 Carbon board and let me know if that passes small settings. Just curious. If not, you can probably bump the clocks down a bit.

EDIT: And now something is going on with my cooling system, CPU is much warmer today @ 4.1 than yesterday. Starting to seriously think about going custom loop, but I have to save for 8 weeks out on surgery this year.

Thanks! I’ll give it a try.

 

[eek2121]

Issue #1 I was having: I was using a splitter cable for one of the sets of 3k fans. Apparently they weren't running at the full 3k. Temps are lower, though I never had a temp problem to begin with. Luckily I didn't RMA that commander pro like I was going to. I also put a fan back over the VRMs since I had to take the machine apart.

 

[IEC]

Issue #1 I was having: I was using a splitter cable for one of the sets of 3k fans. Apparently they weren't running at the full 3k. Temps are lower, though I never had a temp problem to begin with. Luckily I didn't RMA that commander pro like I was going to. I also put a fan back over the VRMs since I had to take the machine apart.

The fan over the VRMs is a must on that board if you are OCing.

 

[eek2121]

The fan over the VRMs is a must on that board if you are OCing.

Not really, the VRMs weren't even approaching 80C.

You aren't going to believe this. I think it's my power supply. One would expect the PS to simply kill the system if there isn't enough power, but I added more power to the 12 volt rail with the commander pro and guess what....the throttling increased.

The PS in question is an EVGA 850GQ. The System is pulling 764 watts from the wall right now according to my UPS.

 

[Markfw]

Not really, the VRMs weren't even approaching 80C.

You aren't going to believe this. I think it's my power supply. One would expect the PS to simply kill the system if there isn't enough power, but I added more power to the 12 volt rail with the commander pro and guess what....the throttling increased.

The PS in question is an EVGA 850GQ. The System is pulling 764 watts from the wall right now according to my UPS.

Not enough.... I use AX1200 Corsairs on all my TR's (but they all have 2 1080TI's and draw 720 from the wall).

I am pretty sure thats your problem.

 

[eek2121]

Not enough.... I use AX1200 Corsairs on all my TR's (but they all have 2 1080TI's and draw 720 from the wall).

I am pretty sure thats your problem.

I'm now almost positive that's my problem.. When I open up ryzen master, my GPU spins up to boost clocks. That, in addition to my high-ish overclocks is overloading the PS.

Edit: For what it's worth, I only have a single GTX 1080ti, and never have I had power issues gaming. However I noticed that my GPU clocks were pegged and the system was pulling tons of juice today, but I do not remember having this issue before.