Threadripper BUILDERS thread

[TahoeDust]

What made you decide to go custom loop @Markfw? Are you hoping to run a higher overclock than with your AIO?

 

[guskline]

Markfw this picture is dated but I'll show you a picture of a BIG radiator; my MO-Ra3-420Pro

It uses 9 XSPC 140mm fans!

 

[IEC]

Are you using Ryzen master or bios to OC ? I am at 3850 and 1.175 vcore

BIOS only, I've never used a Windows application to OC other than Intel's XTU.

 

[Markfw]

What made you decide to go custom loop @Markfw? Are you hoping to run a higher overclock than with your AIO?

Yes, and lower temps

 

[ddogg]

Markfw this picture is dated but I'll show you a picture of a BIG radiator; my MO-Ra3-420Pro
It uses 9 XSPC 140mm fans!

Good god, that is huge lol. I've seen a few people on the overclock.net forums use those.
I have a 560 as well that will be going in this build for my 1080Ti but that definitely takes the cake

Spoiler: Raddage

 

[StefanR5R]

(I currently have a loop with 1 CPU block, 3 GPU blocks, a 420 mm radiator, a 360 mm radiator, and a reservoir--pump combo with a single D5 pump.)

PS, I don't know though whether D5 or e.g. DDC is a better fit for such a loop. I just lack experience with the latter.

EK also makes a res/pump combo. For D5 https://www.ekwb.com/shop/reservoirs/reservoir-pump-combo/ek-d5-series and DDC https://www.ekwb.com/shop/reservoirs/reservoir-pump-combo/ek-ddc-series

I have got the EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM combo and mounted it on fairly long tubes, so that I can move it around. I find this handy for filling, air-bleeding, as well as for draining the loop.

 

[guskline]

StefanR5R: I have the same EK-RevoD5PWM with a standard tube (glass) and it is an EXCELLENT pump/res combo. Plenty of power and very durable.

 

[ddogg]

PS, I don't know though whether D5 or e.g. DDC is a better fit for such a loop. I just lack experience with the latter.


I have got the EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM combo and mounted it on fairly long tubes, so that I can move it around. I find this handy for filling, air-bleeding, as well as for draining the loop.

You always want to get a D5 pump, not DDC. D5 pumps are extremely powerful and last years. I still have one running in my system that I got in 2012 and it saw near 24/7 usage for the first 2-3 years. The EK res combo is a good starter for newbies but you can get more fancy later on by buying your own res tubes, pump tops with a standalone d5 pump.

 

[IEC]

You always want to get a D5 pump, not DDC. D5 pumps are extremely powerful and last years. I still have one running in my system that I got in 2012 and it saw near 24/7 usage for the first 2-3 years. The EK res combo is a good starter for newbies but you can get more fancy later on by buying your own res tubes, pump tops with a standalone d5 pump.

The only thing you absolutely have to make sure of when using a D5 is to not dry start it. Make sure there is water in the pump housing before you turn it on for leak testing. Or you will damage it.

My Enermax Neochanger is a D5 clone (pretty sure it doesn't use an actual Laing D5... just the form factor) pump with a remote control for adjusting RGB LED lighting and pump speed. It seems good so far but time will tell how it holds up versus the "established" D5 type pumps.

 

[Interitus]

Thanks everyone for all the info so far. Been watching silently in preparation for my build in a month or two.

And for the people a little hesitant about the water cooling, I did my first setup a few years ago. It may sound intimidating, but it's not as bad or risky once you just start doing it. Maybe I was fortunate to have everything go well, but just go slow and double check things if you must. It'll be together and working in no time.

Best advice I can give is to buy a power supply jumper or make one yourself and use that when you fill/bleed before you fire up the machine. It will allow you to run just your pumps and fans without the motherboard connected in case anything goes wrong and you get a leak. I just wrapped my fittings in paper towels and let the loop run to bleed and watched for any water spots in the towels. Did that for about 25 minutes and then just let the loop bleed overnight and checked again the next day.

Also I used compression fittings on my first build. Not really an issue for beginners if you're on thick walled tubing. You would seriously have to be torquing on the compression cups like it was a lug nut to even come close to cutting through the tubing. I just got mine hand tight and gave them a half turn past that. Was leak free for 2 years.

 

[StefanR5R]

Best advice I can give is to buy a power supply jumper or make one yourself and use that when you fill/bleed before you fire up the machine. It will allow you to run just your pumps and fans without the motherboard connected in case anything goes wrong and you get a leak.

I use a small 12V PSU for that, like the ones for external HDDs but with a 4-pin Molex connector.

 

[Markfw]

OK, How is this revised list ?


EK-CoolStream SE 360 (Slim Triple)
* Expected date of availability: 11-09-2017

$ 59.99 $ 59.99 Remove item

EK-DuraClear 9,5/12,7mm 3M RETAIL
* Expected date of availability will be added ASAP

$ 14.99 $ 14.99 Remove item

EK-ACF Fitting 10/13mm - Black
$ 6.49 $ 51.92 Remove item

EK-CryoFuel Blood Red Concentrate 100 mL
$ 9.99 $ 19.98 Remove item

EK-ATX Bridging Plug (24 pin)
$ 2.49 $ 2.49 Remove item

EK-Cable Y-Splitter 3-Fan PWM (10cm)
$ 4.00 $ 4.00 Remove item

EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Full Nickel
* Expected date of availability: 28-08-2017

$ 99.99 $ 99.99 Remove item

EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM (incl.pump) - Glass
$ 157.99 $ 157.99 Remove item
Grand Total $ 411.35
Subtotal $ 411.35

 

[ddogg]

Looks much better. You still want to stick to a slim rad though?

 

[Markfw]

Looks much better. You still want to stick to a slim rad though?

What else do they have ? I only saw one 360. You mean the Alphacool 408 ? won't fit in my current case.

Or what about this one !!


EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple)
$ 99.99 $ 99.99 Re

 

[dnavas]

Or what about this one !! [EK XE 360]

The XE in push-pull @ 1300rpm will exhaust around 360W on a 10C gradient, while the Nemesis 360 GTS (a slim radiator like the SE) will exhaust only 309W. So yeah, if it fits....
http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/05/31/ek-coolstream-xe-360mm-radiator-review/5/

 

[IEC]

Gave up on CB R11.5 - too much variance. Seen runs from 13.xx to 33.xx which is absurd. Something is clearly wrong with that particular bench as the last set of tiles slows down dramatically in rendering. CB R15 at least is reproducible +/- 20 points or so.

CB R11.5 @ 4025MHz, 33.06 pts:


CB R15 @ 4025MHz, 3521 cb:


Some notes from testing various overclocks using sequential benchmarks (CPU-Z x3, CB R11.5 x3, CB R15 x3, AIDA64 stress tests) as well as "real world" usage - and one gaming test (PUBG):
4075 MHz - requires > 1.3250V, <= 1.3500V (not sure this is worth dialing in without upgrading cooling, temps get a little toasty with a single 360mm rad under 100% load)
4050 MHz - requires 1.3125V+ for stability, 1.300V was only 99.9% stable
4025 MHz - requires <= 1.300V for stability (have not tested lower voltages, yet)
4000 MHz - fully stable at 1.250V... how low can it go?!?

Currently doing extended stress testing 4000MHz @ 1.25V. AIDA64 stress test @ 32 threads 100% utilization yields a steady-state temperature of 57°C with a 26°C ambient. That temp means I will probably settle at a 4GHz or 4.025GHz 24/7 OC, depending on how much extra voltage is required for the last 25MHz.

 

[ddogg]

What else do they have ? I only saw one 360. You mean the Alphacool 408 ? won't fit in my current case.

Or what about this one !!

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EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple)
$ 99.99 $ 99.99 Re

Yes I meant the XE version

 

[ub4ty]

Noctua is in-stock at retailers. Really disappointed with how some prominent reviewers got these coolers yet couldn't spare time to put it on a threadripper, turn it on, record temps, Oc and record temps... Anywho, linkage :
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...scription=noctua+threadripper&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Mild review :

OC'd to 4.0Ghz and ran Cinebench. Claims he ran it for 45min w/ no issues. Max temps 70C.

 

[dlerious]

What else do they have ? I only saw one 360. You mean the Alphacool 408 ? won't fit in my current case.

Or what about this one !!


EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple)
$ 99.99 $ 99.99 Re

The XE is definitely a better choice. I'm using a pair of PE on my 4790K, mainly because the XE was too thick for my case. I have another pair with the F4-120ER Vardars waiting for a Threadripper build. Have a Monsoon MMRS res and Aqua computer D5 PWM pump (to go with Aquaero) waiting as well.

The only thing I saw missing on your list (that I use) was a mini-valve for draining your loop. An example is here http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-bp-mvv-mbk-mini-valve-matt-black.html . You'll need at least 1 stop plug for that.

 

[Markfw]

Well, at the moment, I am at 3.9@71c sustained 100% load @ 1.25 vcore. Thats the highest I am willing to go 24/7 until I get some custom water on this. But not bad for $120 AIO. I can't fault AMD, as since the TR included the AIO bracket, they knew it would be good enough for even a mild OC.

 

[ub4ty]

Well, at the moment, I am at 3.9@71c sustained 100% load @ 1.25 vcore. Thats the highest I am willing to go 24/7 until I get some custom water on this. But not bad for $120 AIO. I can't fault AMD, as since the TR included the AIO bracket, they knew it would be good enough for even a mild OC.

3.9@71c sustained 100% load w/ a 360mm water cooler
Yummy, seems Noctua is solid as the guy said it didn't go beyond 70*C and that was @ 4.0ghz and 1.34V in his Cinebench run. That being said, I want to see sustained numbers on the Noctua from the reviewers. Seems he should have reviews up soon. Will likely order a Noctua come Monday. Too late to get it shipped it today anyway

 

[Zstream]

Thats an amazingly low vcore, specially when regular Ryzen needs around 1.3 @3.8

Lets see If nexus test is extrapolable to all proper coolers are been announced, it would allow a good margin for higher OC... I guess 4.0-4.1 will be relatively easy to achieve

Not to go too far off topic, but my ryzen is 1.2@3.8. I bet it could go lower. Ryzen is an excellent low voltage chip IMO.

 

[Chaotic42]

I picked up a 16C Threadripper today with an ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard. I'll post some pics when I get it put together.

 

[Markfw]

I picked up a 16C Threadripper today with an ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard. I'll post some pics when I get it put together.

This is the thread for that !!

 

[dnavas]

But not bad for $120 AIO.

FWIW, the Enermax liqtech was on sale briefly at newegg earlier in the day (it's again out of stock). I don't fancy mixing copper and aluminum myself, but presumably someone will be in a position to judge its cooling effectiveness soon.