Threadripper BUILDERS thread

[guskline]

ddogg, Enjoy that Threadripper. Encode, stream AND play games. You've got the cores!

 

[ddogg]

So not sure what happened but I think my board just died. Was using the PC and it decides to just shut off and then refuses to power back on. The mobo LEDs light up but it refuses to power up so I went through all the troubleshooting steps (tried a PSU from a working PC, 1 stick of RAM, clearing CMOS) but nothing seems to work. Looks like I might have to RMA the board back to newegg, sheesh. Also just realized I misplaced that stock CPU socket cover you get with the mobo so I'm not sure what they are going to say if that is not in the return.

 

[Markfw]

So not sure what happened but I think my board just died. Was using the PC and it decides to just shut off and then refuses to power back on. The mobo LEDs light up but it refuses to power up so I went through all the troubleshooting steps (tried a PSU from a working PC, 1 stick of RAM, clearing CMOS) but nothing seems to work. Looks like I might have to RMA the board back to newegg, sheesh. Also just realized I misplaced that stock CPU socket cover you get with the mobo so I'm not sure what they are going to say if that is not in the return.

WOW, the Taichi is supposed to be the best. I have been running mine@100%load 24/7 since I powered it on over a month ago I think.

 

[ddogg]

I'm hoping it's the board and not the CPU as that would require another replacement. This is the first time a board has died on me. Very inconvenient as I have to work off my laptop until this gets resolved.

 

[Reinvented]

I'm hoping it's the board and not the CPU as that would require another replacement. This is the first time a board has died on me. Very inconvenient as I have to work off my laptop until this gets resolved.

That's unfortunate. Did you remove it from the case to test it?

 

[hasta666]

I finally build my new PC yesterday. That was a pain. Too much things to do, those PC need to get a little more straightforward and require less actions. Why the hell is there so much cables to connect to the MB? Why are the M.2 screws so small? This is not designed for human size people

Anyway, some remarks:
- The Noctua is really huge and even though the space between the socket and the first PCIe connector is large in comparison to other MB, it's still not enough. Poor design. I'm using an X399 Fatal1ty
- Again, the Noctua is huge and installing 8 RAM sticks is problematic. I will need to move the fan way higher otherwise you cannot install the stick that is the closest to the fan/socket. Again poor design
- Not much time to play with the system. SSD performance are way lower than what I was expecting. Benchmarks look stellar but real world file copy is low in comparison (at the moment, 1x M.2 as OS, 2x M.2 in Windows RAID0 --> 1.2 Go/s file copy between the two volumes?)

 

[tamz_msc]

Yeah clearance between the RAM slots and the CPU socket is an issue. Only the ASUS boards - the Zenith, and the two new ones, Strix and Prime - are EATX, which as you can see from the screenshots have better spacing between the socket and the RAM slots than the AsRock, MSI, and Gigabyte boards.

 

[MarkPost]

I finally build my new PC yesterday. That was a pain. Too much things to do, those PC need to get a little more straightforward and require less actions. Why the hell is there so much cables to connect to the MB? Why are the M.2 screws so small? This is not designed for human size people

Anyway, some remarks:
- The Noctua is really huge and even though the space between the socket and the first PCIe connector is large in comparison to other MB, it's still not enough. Poor design. I'm using an X399 Fatal1ty
- Again, the Noctua is huge and installing 8 RAM sticks is problematic. I will need to move the fan way higher otherwise you cannot install the stick that is the closest to the fan/socket. Again poor design
- Not much time to play with the system. SSD performance are way lower than what I was expecting. Benchmarks look stellar but real world file copy is low in comparison (at the moment, 1x M.2 as OS, 2x M.2 in Windows RAID0 --> 1.2 Go/s file copy between the two volumes?)

Have you applied the optional offset that Noctua cooler includes?

http://noctua.at/media/blfa_files/manual/noctua_nh_u14s_tr4-sp3_manual_en.pdf

 

[ddogg]

That's unfortunate. Did you remove it from the case to test it?

Yes. I tried everything except with no CPU in it. Board would refuse to power on. I narrowed it down to either dead CPU or dead Mobo and my bet is on the Mobo as I wasn't running any crazy voltages. Sending it back to Newegg today.

 

[hasta666]

Have you applied the optional offset that Noctua cooler includes?

http://noctua.at/media/blfa_files/manual/noctua_nh_u14s_tr4-sp3_manual_en.pdf

No. I'm not using the slot at the moment and not planning to in the near future. It should be just enough though with max offset to allow a card there.

 

[MarkPost]

No. I'm not using the slot at the moment and not planning to in the near future. It should be just enough though with max offset to allow a card there.

yeah, I guess it will be posible with MSI, Gigabyte and ASRock boards, not with ASUS boards though.

 

[MarkPost]

Yes. I tried everything except with no CPU in it. Board would refuse to power on. I narrowed it down to either dead CPU or dead Mobo and my bet is on the Mobo as I wasn't running any crazy voltages. Sending it back to Newegg today.

really sorry for you man. I have to say I'm not a fan of Asrock boards. I tried a Fatality x370 Gaming 4 and my experience was really bad (worst mem support, at least with my mem sticks, than asus or gigabyte x370 boards and VRMs temp really really high, and some other issues).

If I were you, in the same price range, I would order MSI or Gigabyte. Not the same platform, but I own a MSI x299 and I'm really happy with it.

 

[Fir]

Yes. I tried everything except with no CPU in it. Board would refuse to power on. I narrowed it down to either dead CPU or dead Mobo and my bet is on the Mobo as I wasn't running any crazy voltages. Sending it back to Newegg today.

Microcenter can test your cpu if you bought it from them.
I'm a fan of their replacement policies. If this happens you get a new board the same day and if they don't have in stock a gift card for full purchase price.
Asus boards can be tested/flashed without a cpu and memory too!

 

[ddogg]

Microcenter can test your cpu if you bought it from them.
I'm a fan of their replacement policies. If this happens you get a new board the same day and if they don't have in stock a gift card for full purchase price.
Asus boards can be tested/flashed without a cpu and memory too!

I did not buy it from them but will they test it for me even if I didn't? Knowing the CPU is alive/dead would be greatly helpful.
I initially bought it from them but returned it because Newegg got the taichi in stock and it was alot cheaper since there was no tax.

 

[Reinvented]

Yes. I tried everything except with no CPU in it. Board would refuse to power on. I narrowed it down to either dead CPU or dead Mobo and my bet is on the Mobo as I wasn't running any crazy voltages. Sending it back to Newegg today.

There was a post going around on ASRock forums about boards not posting, and they said to remove the CMOS battery for 24 hours, and drain capacitors completely. I've personally never had any problem with either the X370 or X399 Taichi, but I suggest you give it a try. There's absolutely no way that both could have gone. And at least it'll help you fully troubleshoot before having to wait for the painful process of an RMA.

 

[ddogg]

There was a post going around on ASRock forums about boards not posting, and they said to remove the CMOS battery for 24 hours, and drain capacitors completely. I've personally never had any problem with either the X370 or X399 Taichi, but I suggest you give it a try. There's absolutely no way that both could have gone. And at least it'll help you fully troubleshoot before having to wait for the painful process of an RMA.

That is interesting. Ok I will give that a shot today. Do you have a link to this?

 

[FiLeZz]

Threadripper all put together and we were happy for a few days. Then Hurricane Irma comes along and takes the power out since Sunday night. No playing with the computer now. Talk about hot.. It has been hot as hell in the house too. Thanks IRMA

 

[Chaotic42]

So apparently the Aorus 5 has an issue with having 128GB of memory, despite claiming that it can use that much. Here's a link to the forum:
http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/1854/x399-gaming-128gb-ram-issue

Here's pic from my computer:

I'm taking back my cookie, Gigabyte.

 

[Reinvented]

That is interesting. Ok I will give that a shot today. Do you have a link to this?

Sorry, not on hand. You'd have to do a lot of searching on the ASRock forums. But, it's been in there for sure. I came across it a few times as suggestions for non-POSTing boards. (I am actually in the process of an RMA myself for rear panel HD Audio problems.)

Definitely try it though. It worked for quite a few people.

 

[lobz]

100% correct. My industry experience and knowledge as such sometimes gets suspended momentarily so that I may dream of a near term possibility but it is indeed time to lockdown, validate, and get to business . I can't wait to get this sucker ripping through threads... As I look at memtest finally about to complete it's like the calm before the thread storm :

To top it off, I have a little GPU treat coming in from AMD manana. She (vega 56) and muh nvidya card are about to get up close and comfy in the same chassis. Anyone who says I bat for any particular team is wrong .. even have a spicy intel rig close by

I think you bat for any particular team.

 

[Chaotic42]

Seems like it's still unstable at 96GB installed. I got a memory error even though I dialed back the data to try and fit everything in the small amount of memory I had available... I need my gigabytes, Gigabyte!

 

[Markfw]

What is the memory rated at, and running at. I am trying an experiment with mine. 3600 memory@3600 can be stable for DAYS, then lock up or reboot. I set it to 3200 cl14, and 2 days so far. I will wait a week and see what happens. Samsung b-die.

Oh, and I tried 3466, and locked up in a day. Its almost random for me. Temps are not over 71c

 

[Chaotic42]

What is the memory rated at, and running at. I am trying an experiment with mine. 3600 memory@3600 can be stable for DAYS, then lock up or reboot. I set it to 3200 cl14, and 2 days so far. I will wait a week and see what happens. Samsung b-die.

Oh, and I tried 3466, and locked up in a day. Its almost random for me. Temps are not over 71c

2400 and 2400. I don't overclock. Apparently a lot of people have been having this problem. If Gigabyte support doesn't reassure me that a BIOS patch is coming out soon, it'll be back to Microcenter for an ASRock.

 

[Fir]

I did not buy it from them but will they test it for me even if I didn't? Knowing the CPU is alive/dead would be greatly helpful.
I initially bought it from them but returned it because Newegg got the taichi in stock and it was alot cheaper since there was no tax.

I would call them. They are pretty good about this stuff especially if you're a "regular" there.

IMO, the Zenith is the best TR4 board currently. It has dual 8 PIN CPU power connectors. If you're considering high OC (4GHz or more) at over 1.4Vcore this is essential!
I have two of them and they are rock solid. I do recommend thoroughly putting them through their paces with everything stock to make sure there are no issues.
No problems with 128GB either. Using a pair of Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR4-2666 kits at stock speed and timing. I do have the CPU at 3.8GHz w/ 1.275Vcore and it can render projects for days with no freezes, crashes, or power offs. That's good enough for me!

There's a pretty long discussion over at OCN here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636566/...-x399-threadripper-overclocking-support/0_100

The firmware for the OLED module needs to be upgraded. It solved the weird issues I was having displaying post codes.

And BIOS 0611 seems to be the most stable for me.

 

[ddogg]

I would call them. They are pretty good about this stuff especially if you're a "regular" there.

IMO, the Zenith is the best TR4 board currently. It has dual 8 PIN CPU power connectors. If you're considering high OC (4GHz or more) at over 1.4Vcore this is essential!
I have two of them and they are rock solid. I do recommend thoroughly putting them through their paces with everything stock to make sure there are no issues.
No problems with 128GB either. Using a pair of Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR4-2666 kits at stock speed and timing. I do have the CPU at 3.8GHz w/ 1.275Vcore and it can render projects for days with no freezes, crashes, or power offs. That's good enough for me!

There's a pretty long discussion over at OCN here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636566/...-x399-threadripper-overclocking-support/0_100

The firmware for the OLED module needs to be upgraded. It solved the weird issues I was having displaying post codes.

And BIOS 0611 seems to be the most stable for me.

I RMAed the board back and will check with microcenter today to see if they can test the CPU. Would suck if the CPU is bad as I had a 4.1Ghz OC on my CPU @1.381V so it was a solid performer until something died. I don't think newegg will let me RMA it for a refund (they did it for an exchange). Maybe I can call them?
My microcenter has the Zenith boards in stock.

EDIT: Just looking at the reviews on the Zenith on newegg made me cringe