I already have a builders thread for it. Mine ships MondayWho's going for the 2990WX ?
Well, this was well timed. My first (of 3) Enermax 360 TR4 must have failed. Not leaking, but its 84c at idle in bios ??? and when booted the CPU runs at 500 mhz (0.5 ghz) when its supposed to be at full load. I order a Noctura, but it won't be here for days.
Well I’m now having problems with my Enermax Liqtech TR4 360mm AIO
Prime 95 Blend in April ran at 67.5C with an average clockspeeds of 3.8+GHZ
Prime 95 Blend Today ran at 67.5C with and average clock speed of 3.1+ GHZ
Unloaded temps have climbed from 35C to 48C.
I’m also occasionally hearing a chattering noise which I think is the pump.
I’ve read around the Internet that a significant batch of these AIOs had corrosion problems. (My first one was leaking in the box and I had to RMA it)
So I’m thinking of going Noctua U14 TR4 while getting an RMA.
I have 2 nocturas ordered. But I need at least one more, and I have the new Enermax coming for the 2990WX, and it needs to get replaced. Thats over $500 in coolers I have wasted. (4 total) I have one coolermaster NON-TR4 that is doing OK. I will leave it for now.I told you it was only a matter of time. Thank God you guys caught it before it did damage.
Stick to air lads. It's where its at.
I have 2 nocturas ordered. But I need at least one more, and I have the new Enermax coming for the 2990WX, and it needs to get replaced. Thats over $500 in coolers I have wasted. (4 total) I have one coolermaster NON-TR4 that is doing OK. I will leave it for now.
I hope the wraith ripper goes on sale soon.
Make Enermax comp you on a replacement with the new model. They really fudged that first batch and I have a funny feeling the had to have known this was going to occur. When I saw copper mixed with aluminum, I knew it was a ticking time bomb.I have 2 nocturas ordered. But I need at least one more, and I have the new Enermax coming for the 2990WX, and it needs to get replaced. Thats over $500 in coolers I have wasted. (4 total) I have one coolermaster NON-TR4 that is doing OK. I will leave it for now.
I hope the wraith ripper goes on sale soon.
You're on a 1900x? Yeah man, you're goign to totally be fine w/ that Noctua. I have it on a 1950x @3.7 and it handles 250W full 16 core 100% loads like its nothing. Dump the AIO my dude, it's time for reliable AirJust for giggles I plotted the the P95 data I had from April and today. It’s definitely got a problem.
My Noctua will be here Friday. I bought a second fan for it.
I’ve got to go contact Enermax now.
Yup it’s a 1900X. It’s basically 99% of the 2700X with the benefits of the X399 platform I did a review of it here:You're on a 1900x? Yeah man, you're goign to totally be fine w/ that Noctua. I have it on a 1950x @3.7 and it handles 250W full 16 core 100% loads like its nothing. Dump the AIO my dude, it's time for reliable Air
Since we are on the topic of coolers,
Here's a photo of my build after swapping out the Corsair H115i 280mm AIO with a Noctua NH-U14S TR4 SP3. I'm a dummy and thought that the H115i had died, but I think it was some just some issue/glitch with the mobo that caused the fans to not spin up. After I received the Noctua I re-tested the Corsair and it seemed fine :[
I am happy with the Noctua though and it does outperform the Corsair.
In Mark's 2990WX Builders thread I mentioned the three Enermax coolers we have (or had) at work which failed. I took home one of the units that leaked and disassembled it, here is what the build-up looks like. You will find similar photos in some of the recent Amazon reviews.
Lastly, in that same thread x3sphere linked to a new series of TR4 AIO coolers that Cooler Master has coming out, which I wasn't aware of at all. Here is the MasterLiquid ML360 RGB TR4, and it looks like they will have a 280 and 240 as well. Do you guys figure this looks like a proper TR4 cooler or is it just one step above an adapter bracket?
Can't you put the lower GPU in one of the slots further down, to give the upper GPU some breathing space? I used blower style GPUs briefly myself (before I put them under water), and the space between upper and lower GPU mattered quite a bit for temperature and noise of the upper GPU.
Welcome to team air. I'm running the same cooler w/ one fan on a 1950x OC'd to 3.7Ghz w/ 3200+ ram. Doesn't crack high 60*C's in prime95 for prolonged hours. So, you should be more than fine on a 1900x w/ half the cores. 3.7 is a comfy spot.. Huge diminishing returns on power/heat trying to hit 4.0ghzI’ve got my Noctua NH-U14S TR4 installed with two Noctua fans in push pull.
In the top of the case I added two exhaust 140mm fans to replace the 3 120mm fans from the Enermax radiator.
Temps are better. Idle is 34-37C down from 48C
A brief P95 Blend test had the core holding around 3.7 GHZ. This down from the 3.8-3.85 the 1900X was able to hold on the Enermax but up from the 3.1 it’s been holding recently.
Cinebench R15 multithreaded has a score of 1717 in the Noctua vs 1727 on the Enermax.
So the Noctua is decent. I’d still like a full coverage AIO but I can probably make up the difference by playing with the bios. These scores were on stock.
On the topic of swapping an Enermax for an air cooler like the huge and heavy Noctua NH-U14S TR4:
I built my first desktop and chose the 1950x with the Enermax 240 in November 2017 and so far it has done fine, especially since I am stock without OC. I'm thinking about switching over to the Noctua (or maybe a smaller unit if it exists) to avoid risk with the Enermax.
Here's my conundrum:
Every month or so I travel with my desktop between locations 150 miles apart, where 2 miles of the trip is on a rocky and bumpy dirt road; I drive it slowly but not without some jarring. Will the weight of the Noctua air cooler cause too much stress on the motherboard if the desktop is laid flat in the truck such that it is facing upwards? Or can parts of the cooler be easily removed to reduce its weight and stress on the motherboard? I'd rather not remove the whole unit every time I make this trip.
Thanks for any thoughts or guesses about potential damage. Any other lighter weight air coolers worthy of consideration?
I don't know how bumpy that road is, but it's better to be safe than sorry. I guess it boils down to whether your time is worth more than a new motherboard (or other components).On the topic of swapping an Enermax for an air cooler like the huge and heavy Noctua NH-U14S TR4:
I built my first desktop and chose the 1950x with the Enermax 240 in November 2017 and so far it has done fine, especially since I am stock without OC. I'm thinking about switching over to the Noctua (or maybe a smaller unit if it exists) to avoid risk with the Enermax.
Here's my conundrum:
Every month or so I travel with my desktop between locations 150 miles apart, where 2 miles of the trip is on a rocky and bumpy dirt road; I drive it slowly but not without some jarring. Will the weight of the Noctua air cooler cause too much stress on the motherboard if the desktop is laid flat in the truck such that it is facing upwards? Or can parts of the cooler be easily removed to reduce its weight and stress on the motherboard? I'd rather not remove the whole unit every time I make this trip.
Thanks for any thoughts or guesses about potential damage. Any other lighter weight air coolers worthy of consideration?
It is merely a single tower cooler, and not very heavy compared to many other tower coolers. And socket TR4 provides a very wide mounting base.the huge and heavy Noctua NH-U14S TR4
In addition to transporting the PC laid flat, you could remove the fan from the NH-U14S before transport, and you could put in some styrofoam pieces (the stiff closed cell foam) which you cut to size to secure the cooler laterally. And of course put the entire PC into soft foam or something but secure it against lateral and vertical movement.Every month or so I travel with my desktop between locations 150 miles apart, where 2 miles of the trip is on a rocky and bumpy dirt road; I drive it slowly but not without some jarring. Will the weight of the Noctua air cooler cause too much stress on the motherboard if the desktop is laid flat in the truck such that it is facing upwards?
It is merely a single tower cooler, and not very heavy compared to many other tower coolers. And socket TR4 provides a very wide mounting base.
In addition to transporting the PC laid flat, you could remove the fan from the NH-U14S before transport, and you could put in some styrofoam pieces (the stiff closed cell foam) which you cut to size to secure the cooler laterally. And of course put the entire PC into soft foam or something but secure it against lateral and vertical movement.
You probably should remove the graphics card before transport.
Anyone with an earlier version of the Enermax coolers should be filing RMAs. They have to replace it with the fixed version. That's step #1. Internally, that thing is rotting and the corrosion is going to eventually lead to leaks. As for the Noctua, you could possibly get away with laying the PC flat so the tower is pointing up and down perpidicular to the ground surface. Put cushions underneath the case and use a strap down to prevent vertical/horiz movement. Essentially you want a cushion absorber so the forces don't transfer through the case and cause stress on the socket and you want to prevent the case from getting air and then slamming down. Should do the trick IMO, you'll know from the feel of things whether its 'too much'. TR is also a server grade reinforced socket that has a pretty beefy backplate. gotta use your own judgement on this oneOn the topic of swapping an Enermax for an air cooler like the huge and heavy Noctua NH-U14S TR4:
I built my first desktop and chose the 1950x with the Enermax 240 in November 2017 and so far it has done fine, especially since I am stock without OC. I'm thinking about switching over to the Noctua (or maybe a smaller unit if it exists) to avoid risk with the Enermax.
Here's my conundrum:
Every month or so I travel with my desktop between locations 150 miles apart, where 2 miles of the trip is on a rocky and bumpy dirt road; I drive it slowly but not without some jarring. Will the weight of the Noctua air cooler cause too much stress on the motherboard if the desktop is laid flat in the truck such that it is facing upwards? Or can parts of the cooler be easily removed to reduce its weight and stress on the motherboard? I'd rather not remove the whole unit every time I make this trip.
Thanks for any thoughts or guesses about potential damage. Any other lighter weight air coolers worthy of consideration?
I still love the X399 Taichi, I have a new one here. I ordered it for the 2990WX before the MSI board became available, and for the 2950X, its a perfect choice !Given the other thread is a 2990WX thread, and I don't want to step on Mark's toes in there, is there any collective wisdom as to the best ATX motherboard for a 2950X? (e-atx won't fit in a define r5, sadly, and precious few alternatives with 5-1/4 bays and at least 280mm rad support in the front.) I'd like one that I can run a little roughshod with the clocks, but I haven't come across a good motherboard roundup comparison review. The taichi seems to be popular, but it isn't precisely clear why to me. [To be clear, I'm looking for functional, not aesthetic, differences / comparisons.]