Well I looked up that neighborhood, I like to research before I jump to conclusions, I really question why he was there?
Again, it was not a good idea for him to be there. That does not mean we should shrug off what happened to him or place any less blame on those that beat him. This isn't a difficult concept.
Yes. Have you seen all the fight videos of black dudes fighting black dudes. Where you been?
Again, it was not a good idea for him to be there. That does not mean we should shrug off what happened to him or place any less blame on those that beat him. This isn't a difficult concept.
I guess the Klan didn't kill black people because they were black because white people kill other white people.
Well I looked up that neighborhood, I like to research before I jump to conclusions, I really question why he was there?
Causality in this case has not been shown.
http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-youtube-beating-richmond-va-20110127,0,2641041.story
Do we want laws that penalize people for putting their assaults on youtube? On the one hand it's disgusting and should be punished and on the other hand it hopefully makes these animals easier to catch.
Hope they get a fair trial followed by a bullet.
Do not want to watch a video while at work. If it is what I think it is, a bunch of thugs jumping a guy, then of course appropriate punishment should be served. However, I just wanted to say that it would be a bad idea to put laws about uploading videos like that on youtube. The crimes those thugs did are already on the books and if they are ever found they will be punished, there is absolutely no reason to write another law that will simply complicate already over-complicated legal system and chances are will be grossly abused. So no, uploading videos like that on youtube should not be illegal, and like one of the posters has said, if youtube cooperates with police it should be relatively easy to find thugs who uploaded the video. Win-win in my opinion.
Another 'Not Difficult' concept: The first person responsible for your safety is YOU. It's only common sense that you don't put yourself in locations where this kind of sh*t could happen unless you have good reason.
If he didn't 'belong' there, then it only makes sense to question why he was there. Even if that only serves to provide the proper background to show/deny if it was racial, or random, or a drug deal gone bad, or whatever, because that matters as to the charges and how any arrests (...if any) would be prosecuted.
Well I looked up that neighborhood, I like to research before I jump to conclusions, I really question why he was there?
A bunch of black thugs gang up on 1 white, color me suprise.
A handful of posters <shall remain nameless but ya'll know who they are> will come in and ....
Poster #1: no big deal, gang up and beat up 1 person is the right of passage, happens all the time.
Poster #2: white asked for it, blacks did not do anything wrong, it was all whities faults. Always.
Poster #3: a wall of texts, full of bullcrap worthless mumbo jumbo ...and blame on Bush/Republicans/whities/others..but never the black thugs.
3....2....1.....
I guess the Klan didn't kill black people because they were black because white people kill other white people.
Again that is true. But that is not reality, not by a long shot. So go ahead, get it off your chest, get your fuming rant on, ain't gonna change the true nature of the world we live in. It will just make you feel better
I disagree with that concept. Totally. While he should not under any circumstance be blamed for what happened to him, his very actions put himself in harms way. Was he there to buy a hooker? Buy drugs? An illegal gun? My father use to having a saying, don't caught anywhere you can escape from. Now in his day he had to very careful where he ended up at and he would remind me of that because he knew I ran with a rough crowd. Now most of the slop here will say oh they beat him because he was white, I bet any amount of money, that group right there would have probably attack any outsider at that moment regardless of his color. I just get annoyed because the theme here always has this racial slant, when its really just the reality of the society we live in today. It is violent outside, period.
Why yes, Classy.
And women in short skirts share the blame when they're raped, right?
Oh, and black men with white women on their arms share the blame when the KKK or skinheads beat them to a pulp, right?
I often wonder if people actually spend time thinking about their positions instead of just FEELING. Your logic backfires and not only makes victims to blame for the actions of their attackers, it violates the very concept of liberty itself.
All because you feel some kind of groupthink need to defend others who share a genetic trait with you. You throw logic to the wind and come up with the "she was axin fer it 'cause she wore a short skirt!" defense.
Really Classy? Really?
Tell me, Classy, have you EVER seen a case in which black folks should be charged for a "hate crime?" Or is the mindless groupthink just too strong in you?
You wanna pull a gun to a fist fight?
You don't think there's something wrong with your mentality?
My uncle was murdered in a situation much like the one in the video, with no guns or knives used. Nor is that a unique incident. Are you honestly trying to insinuate that a gang of people kicking the crap out of someone can't kill them, and therefore that you shouldn't consider using a gun to defend yourself?
Hell, I'm not even getting into the whole CCW argument. Just that your post is incredibly ignorant.
There have been many blacks charged with hate crime. Every time some white person gets assaulted its not because they are white.
Why yes, Classy.
And women in short skirts share the blame when they're raped, right?
Oh, and black men with white women on their arms share the blame when the KKK or skinheads beat them to a pulp, right?
I often wonder if people actually spend time thinking about their positions instead of just FEELING. Your logic backfires and not only makes victims to blame for the actions of their attackers, it violates the very concept of liberty itself.
All because you feel some kind of groupthink need to defend others who share a genetic trait with you. You throw logic to the wind and come up with the "she was axin fer it 'cause she wore a short skirt!" defense.
Really Classy? Really?
Tell me, Classy, have you EVER seen a case in which black folks should be charged for a "hate crime?" Or is the mindless groupthink just too strong in you?
In a world where you can be murdered for wearing a red shirt in a neighborhood where the local gangs wear blue?
You damned right it's perfectly possible that race didn't have anything (specific) to do with it. Except that it makes it that much easier to identify who doesn't belong.
i dont see why so many people have emphasized the victim is white. black gangs do this to black victims all the time in their neighborhoods.
Dont turn this into a black vs white thing, its a thugs vs victim issue. If the person getting beat up was black (and im sure that's happened alot), then its still a thug vs victim issue.
My uncle was murdered in a situation much like the one in the video, with no guns or knives used. Nor is that a unique incident. Are you honestly trying to insinuate that a gang of people kicking the crap out of someone can't kill them, and therefore that you shouldn't consider using a gun to defend yourself?
Hell, I'm not even getting into the whole CCW argument. Just that your post is incredibly ignorant.
What happened in the video is wrong. Okay let me repeat myself, WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT VIDEO IS WRONG!!!!
But after reading some of the posts in this thread, I ask myself how would you have responded if a group of whites beat up someone who is non-white?
I usually avoid any ATP&N thread that is even remotely related to race. They all tend to have the same type of posts in them.
This is not a story about a person being assaulted. No, for dirtbags like spidey, nick1985, and career trashcans like Amused this is a story that feeds their race hatred.