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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: punchkin
Originally posted by: sirjonk
My point is that ID is not incompatible with evolution, which the federal court opinion I posted states. Belief in a supreme being doesn't contradict the scientific explanation for diversity of species. What I was getting at above is that the average person on the street thinks you have to either believe in god, or believe in evolution. That's not the case. As I said above, if you educate someone and let them know that these two things are not inherently at odds, then a religious person will be unlikely to have a knee-jerk reaction against evolution. My argument isn't that most people are irrational, it's that they are uninformed, which leads to irrational anti-science animus.
ID is completely incompatible with evolution, although belief in a divine being is not.
I read the description of ID as "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection." {Wiki} I figured that meant the argument was that god directed evolution. My bad. I was giving them more credit than they deserve. I didn't think anyone could really try to get a school to teach what amounts to young earth science. I just thought they were trying to skirt the edge and get god credit for creation, but nope, you're right, they argue we never evolved at all. Guess it was that poll I read where 30+% believe we evolved with guidance from god and I attributed that to belief in ID.
This is exactly what I thought ID meant too. I thought their whole angle on getting it into schools was "Yes, evolution happens, but it happens because of God, not natural selection." I read parts of the wiki article... I found it very strange to see someone who looked basically normal, wearing a suit and tie, looking reasonably intelligent, and thinking, "This guy believes God created the Earth a few thousand years ago." That's always disheartening.
What you two are talking about is theistic evolution, not ID.