Ti4400 SLi, who wants one?

[FishTankX]

(Originally:If ATi made the R8500 MAXX which performed better than the Ti4600 (15-20% spread) but ran up a bill of 500$ who would buy? )

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If Nvidia made a Ti4400 SLi setup tommorrow for 600$, who would buy it?

 

[Wolfsraider]

not me im waiting for the r300

 

[FishTankX]

How about R300 MAXX for 500$ 4 months after the R300 is released?

 

[Alex]

lol totally

im still waitin for r300 though... then after a bit ill sell it and get r350... and so on...
for now though since i live in brazil and hardware is so friggin expensive ill stick with my radeon se ddr...

 

[FishTankX]

I understand your pain, man.. over here a Samsung 21 inch monitor is like.. 900$ and a Geforce3Ti500 used to go for almost 350$... the prices are much more reasonable now after china got into the WTO though.

 

[Athlon4all]

Personally, I don't think a R8500MAXX is economical, and I truthfully doubt that it'll manage to beat a GF4 Ti4600 while being priced $450+. Just MHO

 

[FishTankX]

Athlon4All, history has shown that the MAXX architecture can do wonders. In the majority of games, 2 Rage128's had a huge leg up over 1 rage 128. Perhaps along the order of 50%. (I'm pulling figures out of thin air, I haven't read the benhcmarks, I know...) and that's more than whats seperating the Ti4600 and the R8500.

 

[SaturnX]

<< Athlon4All, history has shown that the MAXX architecture can do wonders. In the majority of games, 2 Rage128's had a huge leg up over 1 rage 128. Perhaps along the order of 50%. (I'm pulling figures out of thin air, I haven't read the benhcmarks, I know...) and that's more than whats seperating the Ti4600 and the R8500. >>



Your claim right there invalidates anything you've possibly said. If you're pulling number from air, you can't make assumptions of the card being 50% faster, or whatever numbers you feel like pulling out of the air. And you can't make the assumption of it being faster than the Ti4600, nor can you make accurate comparisons.

I suggest you look at benchmarks, even so, there's alot more now to deal with than there was with the Rage 128, newer technologies and everything, all of which are affected through the use of the MAXX architecture.

Anyways, those were my thoughts, back on track,

I wouldn't buy an R8500 MAXX even if it existed. Until ATI shapes up their driver development, I will never purchase another ATI card, I've gone through two, and one I still use (ATI TV Wonder), and anyone who claims, renaming Win2K drivers and publishing them as WinXP drivers is driver support, you're sadly mistaken, at least nVidia is constantly producing new drivers to get more performance, and functionability out of their products, old and new, that is was driver/product support is about.

*whew* Pardon my venting of anger and rage

--Mark

 

[FishTankX]

Excuse me, Tharyn, but when was the last time you saw a Rage128MAXX Vs. Rage128 comparison? I didn't think so. If you have seen one, kindly point me to it. On a second note, ATi could just build a modular architecture with Pixel/Vertex Shader/Memorycontroller chips and rasterizers slaves. The more rasterizer slaves, the higher the possible highresollution framerates. Ofcourse, then it wouldn't be a R8500MAXX anymore, more like a frankenstein MAXX.. but still! And my estimates of 40% were through extrapolation. As in Rage Fury performance VS TNT2 VS GeforceSDR, extrapolate how much was seperating them and then that would be the difference between the Rage fury MAXX and the Rage Fury because the RageFury came on even with the GeforceSDR. So the difference between a single Rage Fury/TNT2 and a TNT2/GeforceSDR is extrapolation, and a very poor one. If *YOU* Care to tell me, I would be happy to learn my lesson. I don't believe my statement discounted what I said when benchmarks like that don't really exist..

 

[Pariah]

The Rage Fury Maxx had the worst driver support of any video card from a major manufacturer in at least the past 4 or 5 years. They never got that thing working properly, and never released any NT based drivers. I own a Radeon 8500 and think the driver support is pretty decent, a lot better than the anti ATi crowd would have you believe anyway, but I wouldn't go anywhere remotely close to another incarnation of a Maxx card from ATi. If they had hired 3dfx's engineers, maybe, but they didn't. It's a bad idea, and I'm sure ATi learned from the fiasco.

 

[Athlon4all]

Well I didn't mean to start a huge arguement. I am fully aware of the performance difference that the Rage128 vs. MAXX, but I just am doubtful on the potential Just my humble opinion. Also, I think that the cost will be too great as well.

 

[mchammer187]

already am very happy with my regular 8500 retail

R300 MAXX that could be interesting though

 

[Budman]

What I want is a cheap 8500LE.

 

[TEEBONE]

[Puts on flameproof suit] No I don't want one, I would have to wait a year before they got the major driver bugs sorted out, which by that time there would be better cards [/Takes off flame proof suit]

 

[Aquaman]

I don't think they will make it because a Maxx version of the 8500 will interfere with the introduction of the R300 (if the preformace is close). Besides......... I think it will cost too much.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Leon]

<< Athlon4All, history has shown that the MAXX architecture can do wonders. >>



Especially in Win2k/XP

I doubt we'll every see consumer level dual GPU accelerator from ATI again. They learned their lesson. Even if AGP bridge problelm is fixed, dual Radeon 8500 is inpractical, due to massive cost overhead.

Instead, they will use the tech in other segments of the market.

 

[ElFenix]

<< renaming Win2K drivers and publishing them as WinXP drivers is driver support >>

maybe you're unaware that win2k and winxp are damn near the same thing and use the same driver model. by your logic a company would have to have different drivers for 98 and 98SE.

 

[BFG10K]

If ATi made the R8500 MAXX which performed better than the Ti4600 (15-20% spread) but ran up a bill of 500$ who would buy?

Hell no. I don't care how fast it is - MAXX technology is flawed at the hardware level. 3dfx's SLI is the only way to go with multiprocessing GPUs.

 

[FishTankX]

Okay, for the record, Im changing this topic to something less flame prone. OK? Got me? Changing the topic. As in editing the actual title. New title...

Who would want a 2 way Ti4400 SLi setup? 2 chips on the same board. Yup, thats right. 2 way SLi. I know its a dream, but Im wondering who would pay its projected price (My personal estimates) of around 600$?