Ti4600 or Ti4400

[Kali157]

got another possibility:
What is the real difference between Ti4600 or Ti4400? Can someone show me sites of benchmarks that show the difference btween the 2. I personally do not run games at 1600x1200 (or what ever they use to max out resolution). I guess what I am asking is should I go with the Gainward Ti4400 ($299) or Gainward Ti4600 ($430 b/c of the extra stuff)? THanks

 

[cmdrdredd]

Basically the Ti4400 is a lower clocked version of the ti4600. details aren't available yet, but this is how I'd look at it...Ti4600 is for bragging rights and Ti4400 is for saving some money

Unless the gainward stuff is interesting to you...firewire card etc

 

[Kali157]

Since both the Ti4400 and Ti4600 have the same core NV25, does that mean I can overclock the Ti4400 core to Ti4600 levels? I mean that logic makes sense to me. I cannot find any difference in both cores except one is clocked at 275 and the other is at 300. I do not think Nvidia made 2 NV25 chips... just one underclocked. Even in their technical brief, Nvidia rates the NV25 core at 300mhz with no distinction that the Ti4400 GPU was different. Actually, sites clock the Ti4400 card at 300mhz for reviews (like digit-life.com), but they rarely try to push the core as much as the Ti4600 (maybe afraid that peopel see little difference???) So in the end the only difference i see is the memory which is set at 2.8ns for the Ti4600 and 3.6ns with accounts for a theoretical max of 715 (1000/2.8ns* 2 b/c od ddr) and 550 for the ti4400 (hopefully we can push the 550 a lil more )
Now the question/challenge: Anyone with a Ti4400 card, tell us how far you pushed it. No locker room bragging, just actual clock speeds.
Also, qualms and problems with these cards in general. Thanks everyone.

 

[Byte]

you get at most 10 frames more with the 4600. Save the $100. The core doesn't like o/c much. The most people get are around 330, if your lucky. Even with exotic cooling it's hard to get anything higher. Most people can get their (including me) 4400 to 300. Memory is differen't but not too much off. Minimum is around 600. I am only able ot get 610 with ramsinks. Some people can get up to 650. It really depends on luck. The best o/c ing brands are Gainward, eVGA, and Leadtek. But it's still luck, not all will guarantee overclock to levels you may want.

 

[Kali157]

Damn... not bad... What about temps... does it get REALLY HOT... any instability probs running at that speed? Which Ti4400 do u have? thanks

 

[han888]

my leadtek ti 4400 currently run at 300/650 ( ti4600 speed) , i do not know about the stability yet.. i just finish run 3dmark 2001 without any problem..


ti 4400 300/650 xp 1716 ( 143fsb )

 

[Kali157]

sweet.... cany extra cooling to the case... how hot does it get? any tips for a semi novice overclocker?

 

[Bingo13]

I sent my Visiontek Ti4600s back and replaced them with the Gainward Ti4400. I had the 4600s at 320/705, the 4400s will do 305/640 at max and I am running them at 300/630 without a single issue.. The only real difference you can see is watching an extra 100+ points show up on 3dMark 2001. Even though I had the money for the 4600s I just could not see paying the difference for maybe a 5% improvement in benchmarks.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Before I took my PNY 4600 out I was running it at 320 720 without a hitch. I did add the Thermaltake cooling kit on it just for the cool blue heatsinks it comes with. Tomorrow my Leadtek card will be here so I am looking forward to putting that bad boy in. I am not looking forward to the 2 loud fans it has. I explained in another post here also that anytime I try to remove the drivers that come with the card and try to use different ones I get a black screen and a box pops up saying OUT OF SCAN, NO INPUT SIGNAL, then I have to put in my old card just to get windows to come up. That for me is enough to take this card back, since both PNY cards do the same error after removing drivers.

 

[Byte]

what do you mean by removing the drivers?

 

[BFG10K]

As always, buy the fastest hardware you can afford.

 

[rgowen]

In some of the reviews, they show the Ti4600 core as saying Ultra on it and the Ti4400 core has no special notation. Pretty much all Ti4400 cores are ones that did not reach 100% stabilty at acceptable speeds in Nvidia's tests and the Ti4200 would be the similar just not reaching the 4400 standards.