Let it go to trial and sort out what happened. It is just how the justice system works for him to request an outlandish figure, so getting worked into a tizzy over that is just stupid. Even if he wins he won't get that much.
The school system has their hands tied and they are not legally allowed to release their evidence because of laws that protect student records and such. They are not allowed to discuss the exact reasons why he was detained including the exact words that he said to them unless the parents allow them to release it. They have strongly implied that if the family would allow them to share this information that they would be fully exonerated, but the family has not allowed it.
Regardless of his intentions, police detained and questioned him without legal representation. That is outright indefensible, and considering how regularly some of you have made a fuss about government oppression, I have no idea why you seem to think that is ok. It is entirely possible to take major issue with that, and also take issue with the kid and his parents' actions. But then it's pretty clear what the intentions of certain people have been. Both can be wrong here.
That is how the family wants to portray it. Authorities absolutely can detain someone and ask questions without legal representation. They can do it to you or me too. You don't have to answer and they don't have to provide legal representation unless they charge you. There are differences when dealing with a minor but they are still certainly allowed to ask questions and detain him. It's clear from the start that the parents intended to represent this as someone who was arrested unjustly and denied rights when we are not allowed to see their justification for detaining him and his rights were not denied (the parents were notified/called and
conveniently never showed, sending the sister instead, etc). Are you seriously saying that an uncooperative individual carrying a device that very likely INTENDED to look like a bomb who intentionally answers vaguely or refuses to answer specific questions should not be held and questioned? I could easily carry my replica and answer in ways that would justifiably get me in the same situation.
What is this?
-I made it.
What it it?
-A clock.
Why did you put it in this case?
-It's a clock.
Did you want people to think it was a bomb?
-It's a clock.
Why did you bring it to school?
-I wanted to show my teacher.
Was it part of a school project?
-It's just a clock I made!
We know. We want to know why. Why did you break it apart and put it into this case?
-*silence*
Why did you set it to go off in class?
-It's a clock.
WHY did you break open a clock and put it into this pencil case to show your teacher?
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Red Squirrel, you should really learn to actually know what the hell you're talking about before you post. You are so regularly astoundingly wrong or just saying whatever hyperbolic shit you think without bothering to know.
Sorry CZroe and your twin, but what you've presented is hardly absolute fact, so stop pretending it is (and you've got to be fucking kidding demanding apologies considering some of the shit you two have pulled).
It's ABSOLUTE FACT that it was clearly an off-the-shelf manufacturers clock and that was obvious from the moment that the picture came out. He FLIPPED HIS LID at the suggestion that this clock was not home made and attacked us personally with laughably misguided assumptions including:
It was better than we could do at his age (nope; we actually built real electronics)
We had more resources (nope; his family are millionaires while we were raised by a single jobless mother on welfare)
We were attacking this kid because we are hateful (nope; we started out just pointing out that he didn't build anything and that the media was mischaracterizing it until more evidence of a scam came to light)
There is NO EXCUSE for his ignorance here because he knows more about electronics than us and should have been able to tell at a glance just like we could. Instead he ignorantly ignored the PROOF that was right in front of his face and chose to continue claiming that the kid built it for far longer than it would take to actually read and understand why it was clearly a manufactured clock. Even that wasn't enough, he had to also continue attacking anyone who said otherwise and continue calling them racists and Islamophobes. NOTHING could dissuade him from assuming the most outrageous assumptions implied by their claims and the headlines until he read it from *other* sources and could no longer deny it. That is not intelligent discourse.
What? I don't have the authority to point out that:
The ribbon cables are solid-core and soldered with no headers (only makes sense in manufacturing)
The AC transformer is designed to be internal (again, only makes sense in manufacturing for economies of scale)
The remote button board would not exist without an enclosure to mount to (not to mention, actual buttons)
Even with a dual-power design (external/battery) a hobby/home-built clock would have a DC power source, unlike manufactured clocks that frequently have AC+9v battery
Anyone prototyping for mass manufacturing with the skill/understanding to engineer the clock AND an AC PSU would never allow a loose inductive power transformer in a metal box (simply too dangerous)
...and that's all IN ADDITION to the laughable interviews he was giving and the stuff he was showing them and the contradictions he kept making (breaking the lock and tying with wire makes it "less suspicious?!").
I seem to recall you did the same bullshit over the Ferguson situation, acting like the evidence proved something absolutely and then brushed it off when shown that the expert claim that you were using to prop up your argument was disputed by the exact same expert. Weird how you dismissed that, but now its ok to post trash literally made up by blogs?
Honestly, I have no Earthly idea what you are talking about. We called Ferguson from the day we became aware too and I am, once again, proud to have stood against the exact same kind of ignorance that was demonstrated in this thread. It was the same BS with people bandwagoning on baseless biased claims that the evidence ultimately proved wrong. We took the same position that you can't believe their ridiculous claims that fly in the face of reason and, once again, we were right.
Also odd is how you're making such a fuss about this kid being evasive when you dismissed outright lies with regards to Ferguson. That both of you have made a big deal about how the media are people and are flawed yet somehow you two act like you're not is straight bullshit. You two chastise others when you pick and choose facts almost as bad as anybody.
Still going with this? Here's another one for you: we called the Zimmerman vs. Appleguy (I still refuse to call him by his name) case too while everyone was jumping to conclusions.
Honestly, it would make more sense to attack me for saying that we should wait for evidence before rushing to condemn Cosby and Jared based on nothing more than claims... which was exactly my position on the Ahmed and Ferguson incidents. Strange, huh? People were calling for Jared's head before there was even an accusation against him (investigators were supposedly collecting evidence against his friend) and as soon as evidence came out with charges/accusations I was 100% on board with prosecuting him. I said all along that there's a good chance that Cosby is guilty but that all we have are claims for now. I didn't take a side and defend it without evidence. I never proclaimed that Cosby or Jared were innocent because I knew damned well that they may not be (and said so).