Time for a walk down memory lane - who remembers the Wounded Monitor Children?

Rio Rebel

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See how you do on this quiz:

1. What was the brand and size of the monitors?
2. Who coined the term "Wounded Monitor Children"?
3. How many monitor orders were actually honored (not including non-disclosure agreements or settlements)
4. Which Anandtech forum was born from this event?
5. Who was the distributor that Buy.com was using as a supplier?

And the bonus question:

How did Buy.com change their business model as a result of this fiasco?


Ahh, the good old days. When men were men, women were women, Anandtech Forums was not a kiddie chatroom, and WE WANTED OUR MONITOR!
 

rahvin

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Oct 10, 1999
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1. Hitachi 19"
2. Harvey?
3. it was current stock, something like 71
4. HotDeals
5. Ingram Micro (largest computer part supplier in the US)

Bonus: They stopped charging before shipping.

Tripple bonus question: What was the topic of the thread that caused the creation of the Off-Topic forum?
Quadruple bonus: Who were the main participants in that thread.
 

brtspears2

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Nov 16, 2000
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I missed out on this deal, but I never bought anything from buy.com again after I got by with that $50 off $50.
 

Zombie

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Dec 8, 1999
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haha, I started with the $50 off $50 staples coupons .

I did use 5-10 of those coupons didn't really buy anything significant either just small stuff. I wish I had the money.
 

Sepen

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Haha, I was a WMC. I actually got a settlement. I could have cared less one way or the other.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Sepen
Haha, I was a WMC. I actually got a settlement. I could have cared less one way or the other.
LOL I did too! I remember H8tank, NoWhereman and Myself flaming all those WMD wankers who flooded AT during that episode. I bet during those few weeks Anandtech realized the biggest growth in members ever. Hell if it wasn't for that debacle Anand might not have achieved the status and wealth from this site that he did!
 

Stark

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now, looking back, i'm glad i didn't get a huge 21" behemoth for my desk. LCD is so much nicer.

good times.
 

Ornery

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I think Russ coined the phrase. As I recall, Harvey had his lawyer order the monitor, so he would be poised to strike when it fell through. Of course he didn't suspect it was an error at all... :roll:
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: Stark
now, looking back, i'm glad i didn't get a huge 21" behemoth for my desk. LCD is so much nicer.

good times.

As a guy who's got 2 x 21" behemoths on my desk, I have to disagree.
 

RossMAN

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News article with quotes from our very own Entity (Rob Cole)

buy.com. The challenge Gregory J. Hawkins faced in turning around e-tailer buy.com was clear the moment the new CEO walked into his office. On his desk was a pile of angry letters from customers carping about everything from falsely priced products to unanswered e-mail. On his computer screen: links to more than a half-dozen buy.com hate sites. Hawkins' reaction? He invited unhappy consumers to a forum at buy's head office in Aliso Viejo, Calif., all expenses paid. ''It was the best way for me to understand the problems,'' Hawkins says.

University of Washington student Rob Cole accepted--grudgingly. ''I thought it would be a lot of corporate spin,'' says Cole, who built a complaint site after he was charged for a computer monitor that never shipped. Meeting Hawkins softened his skepticism. ''He seemed to be making a decent effort,'' Cole says.

Cole doesn't know the half of it. In the year since buy.com's board brought Hawkins in to replace founder Scott Blum, the new CEO has launched a top-to-bottom cleanup. Not that buy.com--which started out selling computers and later expanded into electronics, books, videos, and more--lacked sales. The company racked up $125 million in revenues in its first year, thanks to a massive ad campaign that branded buy as a low-price leader. Problem was, Blum didn't have the infrastructure to support all the customers, and his rock-bottom pricing left little hope of profits. ''The company was mature at the top line, and immature everywhere else,'' Hawkins says.

Hawkins has focused on buy.com's most prominent feature: prices. The company's original plan had been to charge the lowest prices on the Web and make it up by selling ads. It would keep costs down by outsourcing fulfillment and customer service. Gross margins for 1999 were negative 1.2%--far shy of the 10% to 20% Hawkins felt buy.com needed to stay afloat. So Hawkins began quietly raising prices. He still sells a handful of key products below cost, but hopes customers attracted by the bargains will toss a few higher-priced items into their baskets.

Is it working? The site now has 300 advertisers, up from 100 a year ago. Gross margins soared to 4.3% in the first quarter. Revenues in the quarter grew 92%, to $207.6 million, from a year earlier. Still, buy.com's loss widened by 70%, to $32.8 million, as Hawkins ramped up spending to build the infrastructure the company needs.

At least one customer is giving buy.com a second chance. After meeting with Hawkins, student Cole took down his site. And a few weeks ago he bought a DVD on buy.com. A green dot indicated it would ship in two days. It hasn't arrived. ''Their customer service still needs some work,'' Cole says. Will customers--not to mention investors--hang in there while Hawkins completes his makeover? The site's survival depends on it.
 
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rahvin

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Well if we are going to remember other things, how about ValueDollars. My morality wouldn't let me exploit it like others did but some people sure exploited it!
 

kranky

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Whoa, it was like a major flashback when I opened this thread. Topic started by Rio Rebel and last reply by Ornery. Oh, for the halcyon days of AT.

I found AnandTech just as the WMC commotion was starting. Early '99? I'm struggling to remember the name of the woman who was one of the key people in the initial settlement - was it Carolyn? That's my contribution to the trivia.

And BTW, happy birthday, Red.
 
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Stark

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Stark
now, looking back, i'm glad i didn't get a huge 21" behemoth for my desk. LCD is so much nicer.

good times.

As a guy who's got 2 x 21" behemoths on my desk, I have to disagree.

and when that third eyeball starts growing out of your forehead from all that radiation, don't say I didn't tell you so!

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Ornery
I think Russ coined the phrase. As I recall, Harvey had his lawyer order the monitor, so he would be poised to strike when it fell through. Of course he didn't suspect it was an error at all... :roll:
Nah it was Harvey. He did coin the phrase in a post over at Russ's forum though in a thread there about the fscktards whining about the Hatachi's
 

Entity

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I thought 161 monitors were sold. All I know is that buy.com flew me down to talk to then-CEO Greg Hawkins about what they could do in the future to avoid this problem (I ran boycottbuy.com at the time).

Rob
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: rahvin
1. Hitachi 19"
2. Harvey?
3. it was current stock, something like 71
4. HotDeals
5. Ingram Micro (largest computer part supplier in the US)

Bonus: They stopped charging before shipping.

Tripple bonus question: What was the topic of the thread that caused the creation of the Off-Topic forum?
Quadruple bonus: Who were the main participants in that thread.

butteR?
 

badmouse

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Talk about old memories! I didn't need the monitor but I did get a lot of stuff from buy.com. They sure had a lot of pricing "errors", as I recall, great coupons and customer "service" that you could take advantage of. We all had our own definitions of what was moral, and what was over the line in terms of ripping off the companies.

Speaking of coupons, there was some kind of battle going on at the time with the housewives at mycoupons.com. I don't remember what the fight was about - probably about whether or not to notify the companies when they had price errors - but I remember checking out mycoupons.com to see if they were any better at good deals. They weren't.
 

GRIFFIN1

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Well if we are going to remember other things, how about ValueDollars. My morality wouldn't let me exploit it like others did but some people sure exploited it!

ValueDollars!!!! I did all my Christmas shopping with Value America that year. What the hell was Value America thinking?

I was also a "WMC", but I spent my buy.com settlement at buy.com. I didn't expect to get the monitor, and I personally got sick of all the bitching and moaning that was going on over it. If I were the CEO of buy.com, none of the people that flew out there for the meeting would have ever been heard from again.
The dot.com boom was fun while it lasted.
 
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