Illegals... either we're going to have a civil war, or we're simply going to play half assed measures at insulting them until we finally FULLY embrace them. So why bother insulting them if you're not forcibly removing them?
There's no point in not welcoming your fellow Americans, because that's who they are. You're certainly not going to do a damn thing to change that.
Fiscal conservation will mean nothing more than 75% of the country getting government checks rather than 76%, or 75% top brackets versus 90% top brackets.
Most likely, Catholics vote democrat.
And aren't most Hispanics Catholic? The Dems are doing quite well importing themselves a constituency.
Yeah but there is a difference between an irish\italian\spanish catholic and a hispanic catholic. One is socially liberal, the other conservative.
Republicans if they could get off the xenophobe train could gather quite a following in the lantino community. They also line up quite well with blacks on social\moral issues. But they have completely dropped the ball courting these groups.
I see them remaining a demographic without a voice for the foreseeable future. Neither the fiscally conservative nor the socially conservative parts of the Republican Party can be competitive alone, and each drives away some of the other. Democrats on the other hand promise something for everyone. What cares the person who wants others to pay for his health care if someone else is getting a free education or free day care or government subsidies for his solar telephone sterilizing company? We're importing (legally and illegally) more and more poor people who want "free" stuff, and we're creating with our outsourcing and welfare programs more and more poor people who want "free" stuff. It's a double whammy, and one for which the Republicans have no real answer. If the Republicans can't beat Obama they can't beat anyone on the left, so they have a choice, they can either choose to be a permanent minority party with increasingly less relevance and power, or they can choose to become the Democrats and promise more "free" stuff, or at least more efficient handing out of the "free" stuff. I predict the latter; I think they'll be more interested in holding office than in holding whatever principles they have. Essentially you can vote for the Democrat, or you can vote for the other Democrat. Fiscal conservation will mean nothing more than 75% of the country getting government checks rather than 76%, or 75% top brackets versus 90% top brackets.
The Pubbies had better choose quickly though, or the two parties will be Democrat and La Raza.
republicans offer lots of free stuff. Bush grew spending by 45% over clinton and required no one to pay for it.
Free on front end and back end.
Least dems are asking ppl to pay. We'll see how that goes tho. Usually when they start seriously rasing taxes Republicans can sweep in.
Latinos decided the election. Hard line anti-immigration policies cost Romney the election. Demographics will only get worse for GOP.
Obama will have to make a push. Will GOP concede to get in the good graces of Latinos?
Even Karl Rove is lamenting the loss in the Latinos. Party will be making a push to bring them in. Non of that is happening while you are threatening to card and deport them all the time.
illegal immigration is an effect not a cause, just like outsourcing is an effect not a cause,People need to stand up to these illegal immigrants, report them and help get them kicked out. They are one of the groups causing the demise of this country
You do realize that the ones who can legally vote are not at risk of deportation right?
Supporting illegal immigrants is borderline treason.
illegal immigration is an effect not a cause, just like outsourcing is an effect not a cause,
the problem is greed (love of money) at the expense of everyone and everything else which comes from the lack of morals and ethics.
People need to reach in their pockets and pay for an American or legal immigrant to do the job just like they would like to get paid instead of using illegals in order to save a buck, so they can go spend it on their Chinese made junk.
They are? Taxes are nowhere close to outlays, and how many tax increases did the last Dem-majority Congress pass? I'd love for the Dems to actually raise taxes, but they haven't. They talk that game sometimes, just like the GOP talks all that "spending-cuts" game, but it never really happens.
No, we dont need immigration reform. Our immigration laws-whether dealing with legal immigration or dealing with illegals-are fine. We just need to enforce them.
The ones who can vote legally now are offspring of those Reagan refused to kick out. And they will be assured to vote in favor of policies that help other illegals, rather than hinder them.
Health care bill contains a tax. But you're right they won't actually pass anything substantive and may even extend Bush tax cuts again! They know it's a sure fire way to lose otherwise. We are basically fucked. No one in charge will make fiscally responsible choices nor upset the ruling class paradigm who puts politicians we are allowed to vote for in the first place. middle and lower class americans, the vast majority will continue,circling the drain.
We can't get rid of illegals, who is going to serve me food in the company cafeteria or grow and harvest my vegetables. Surely, Americans don't want to do hard labor..so who the fuck is going to do it if we won't?
Republicans live in a alternate reality field if they believe they are going to round up 30 million ppl, say 12 million illegals and 18 million US citizen children and send them back. NEVER going to happen.
Eisenhower rounded up only 400,000 and there was hell to pay even then.
Reagen smartly gave citizenship to around 4 million rather than look like a meany.
30 million? no chance.
If Republicans were smart they'd be pushing a path to citizenship.
Republicans live in a alternate reality field if they believe they are going to round up 30 million ppl, say 12 million illegals and 18 million US citizen children and send them back. NEVER going to happen.
Eisenhower rounded up only 400,000 and there was hell to pay even then.
Reagen smartly gave citizenship to around 4 million rather than look like a meany.
30 million? no chance.
If Republicans were smart they'd be pushing a path to citizenship.